For context this from a “leftist” group chat where there was buncha discussion about the growing hepatitis and possible polio in gaza. The person who typed it “got heart diseases from the bill gates vaccines” and this was their claim that hepatitis incidence is fake and bill gates conspiracy to give vaccines to gaza.

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      They kept doubling down and said all of this is concrete. And that I’m a dumb person who doesn’t know science. They said they studied in some burgerland university and that I am not respecting the prowess they have.

      At one point they even sent some random molecular biology terms to test my non burgerland prowess.

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        Btw I’m an actual biologist, and what they send is basic shit that you mostly learn in school, and that is unrelated to each other and to whatever it is they are talking about. Most likely they lifted that stuff off a google search of “advanced biology terms” or something.

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          Yeah. I did my masters and specialized in molecular biology. Telling them I was versed in molecular biology prompted that response. They were spewing shit about vaccines and how they were a great virologist studied in usa. Its funny to just ask generic shit and be “Oh I bet you don’t know that huh”.

          I did research in rice and its genetic mapping. I don’t go around asking generic definitions I guess.

          Also yeah it does come off as googled terms.

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        “What do you mean I can’t bring a cow into your house? It is obvious to me as a cow expert that your door is big enough. Now name ten breeds of cattle, and then we can talk”

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        That’s pathetic. So this person can claim that Muslims can’t get erection because non-stop fight or flight mode (I wonder how humanity managed to survive), but you can only argue, if you can elaborate all those random medical words.

        Oh you think some piece of software is shitty? Weeeellll, before you continue, please explain to me how you would implement in detail a new game engine with ray traycing for the Gameboy Advance.

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          Oh yeah. They kept claiming wild shit about hepatitis and polio. Then kept telling what they wrote was completely fine and I’m just a rude person that cannot read. Then were referring to how sophisticated they are for doing post grad in some usa university.

          I asked em that I have done post grad too but who gives a shit. Then they replied to me with whatever that was to say I’m not a person who even knows this.

          I did elaborate but that doesn’t matter that’s some generic shit. But its very annoying to be like “I’m a genius doctor virologist and do you even these terms”. I can do that too.

          That doesn’t make any racist shit more valid.

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            Thats some ad hominem shit. I guess there even is a Wikipedia Article about that. I am usually not a person who throws those explanations about fallacies in a conversation, but this is a exception.

            People which believe in esoteric or in consperative theories are using as hominem stuff a lot.

            Your opinion is invalid, because you are a jew, woman, muslim, black, from Asia or because you are not an expert. The examples I mentioned are chauvinistic, bit they don’t have to be.

            That you have to be a Prof. Dr. Dr. Dr. Of something to be able to argue, is not right. Tbh at this point I would probably point out, that this kind of argument is illogical and a fallacy. And then leave it be. They probably just don’t know how to counter your arguments and rather continue pretending that your argument is invalid because your didn’t visit some school in burgerland.

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              Yeah. They did it cause I spoke about their weird vaccine beliefs. And called them dumb.

              They didn’t argue. They just said I’m a rude person who can’t type sophisticated ways without cursing.

              The group was more offended over me even asking that. They were claiming I was being very acrimonious and bringing disunity. Not the racist person.

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    Aren’t these the same sort of people who claim that the “muslim hordes” will migrate to Europe and replace the population there within 2 generations or something? How can they do that when they don’t got game, as this person claims?

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      They were some western diaspora person. This is from a “leftist” group as I pointed. That person says they are supporting Palestine. And they wanna launder whatever bizarre theories they buy into this. Like how vaccines are being tested on gaza or the stuff I posted. Racism comes in different ways.

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      People here confuse their opponents too much. Yes many people have insane beliefs, no they aren’t the same.

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        Yeah this person is not really that sort of racist but still racist. People got some mixed beliefs. That comes with the whole vaccine conspiracy people. It becomes almost like a european talking about immigrant gangs. At least language of it.

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        True, there’s a whole ecosystem of Islamaphobia and white supremacism, they mix and match their beliefs as they see fit, but that doesn’t mean they all hold all the same ideas at once.

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      The Western British diaspora and Western European enjoys self victimization to gain sympathy contrary to their victim blaming policy? The Western European diaspora also complain about civilisation by invasion, colonization, authoritarian rule by foreign race, fake school death camps, and treason by the true god of Christianity and the invisible hand?