• Dremor@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      Problem is that the only two other options is to either turn a blind eye on what looked like the start of a genocide, or having two nuclear power at open war.

      Abandon Ukraine means it put its own wellfare above human rights, in which case Putin would be right to despise the West.

      Go at war with Russia would put humanity on risk of annihilation as both side has enough nuclear weapons to wipe it out. Multiple times.

      Having the Ukrainian choose their destiny by defending their land, while not ideal, is the only option that the West have to stay true to its ideals. The West populations are not blind to their sacrifices, and as long as they are willing to fight for their rightful territory, so are the West to provide the means to do so.

        • meowgenau@programming.dev
          1·
          9 months ago

          such as not trying to conquer the world

          Imagine being so deluded as to try to frame the largest country on earth, Russia, as the victim here. How, according to your world view, have they become so big? Did the now-Russian ethnic minorities simply surrender their lands to be taken over by some Slavs in Moscow?

          Honestly, you need to have a 10 minute conversation with a Russian to understand how utterly brainwashed they are. The majority of the Russians are rooting for an imperialist fashist.

      • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
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        9 months ago

        As the leader of a country the president is ultimately responsable and represents the actions of the country.

        Trump has been out of office for 4 years…

        • PonyOfWar@pawb.social
          1·
          9 months ago

          How exactly is Biden responsible for Republicans blocking any Ukraine aid that he’s trying to get through congress?

        • frunch@lemmy.world
          1·
          9 months ago

          Are you just here to be a punching bag for anyone on the left? If so, you’re doing a bang-up job, champ

          • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
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            9 months ago

            No, I have no real investment in the American political system. I was pointing out the satire in the original photo was misplaced. As people have demonstrated in this conversation most of the interactions have made massive assumptions about why i made my comments rather then addressing my comment.

            • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip
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              9 months ago

              the satire in the original photo was misplaced

              Perhaps you’re not aware of the concept of synecdoche,, where one part of something is used as a representative of the thing as a whole. You saw the float and said that it had nothing to do with trump (vaguely true despite the fact that many of his party still answer his beck and call), whereas the float has “republikaner” written on it, which despite not speaking German I can only assume means “republican”. So basically the float is depicting the republican party at large killing Ukraine, despite the fact that there are only two people shown.

              • drcobaltjedi@programming.dev
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                9 months ago

                This float is far from anything even remotely close to “subtle”, and yet that guy still couldn’t understand the float. I’d say media literacy is abismal but at this point it’s just reading.

                • Triadager@feddit.de
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                  9 months ago

                  I think it means Republicans, plural, as in not only Trump. Which is an important distinction imo. Trump is just used as an example.

    • RubberDuck@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      No, trump has gotten his house lackeys to stop any bill that gets aid to Ukranians. Purposefully misrepresenting what is going on is very MAGA SVR of you.

      And the fact republicans take their marching orders from citizen trump just shows how far gone they are.