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Lets destroy a sovereign country and annex it because:
- some people there may be nazis
- sudeten, oops, russian minority
- being pro-Amerikkka
- people there don’t have any political will, motivation or identity so another country made them throw out their dictator
How do you even exist with yourselves. You are a joke.
of course, a nation is truly sovereign after a fascist coup planned and funded by a foreign government, this makes perfect sense
Let’s not kid ourselves, people, they are both nazi regimes. Russia is not the USSR, it is a mafia state. The existence of the Ukrainian and Russian governments is a crime against humanity, they are not our friends.
Instead of helping one side or the other, we should destroy them both. Putin and Zelensky should be hanged and their illegitimate fascist governments should be overthrown.
Once the Western thugs have dealt with either one of them. There would certainly be a in-fighting between these capitalists lusting after power and gold.
Yeah, but not by any NATO country
*NAZITO
And it’s truly sovereign after it gets destroyed and annexed by a different foreign government, really?
Fuck western nations but like also fuck Putin’s Russia
After the fascist coup, Crimea and the Donbas very reasonably wanted to separate from the new government. The coup government reacts by sending fascists to occupy the Donbas. Russia waits for almost a decade, trying multiple times to make a deal with the coup government and its backers to leave the Donbas alone and let it have some level of autonomy. The coup government repeatedly violates both of the Minsk agreements and continues killing civilians. Russia finally accepts the request from the DPR and LPR to send troops into the region. Ukraine continues attacking the Donbas and eventually Russia and the Donbas republics decide that they have to enter Ukraine in order to stop the attacks. During this time, Russia attempts many times to negotiate a peace deal, which Ukraine’s coup government almost accepts until some imperialist mascot like Boris Johnson travels to Kyiv and tells Zelensky not to accept the deal. As a result, the war continues.
but clearly this is all Russia’s fault
Anyone claiming that all nations involved aren’t highly culpable for the destruction of Ukraine are pretty ignorant of the situation.
But to go to bat for the literal invaders? Wild.
Yuck, you’re disgusting and I hope your dreams are full of dead Ukranian children. I think I’m going back to Reddit
Wait. You guys spread putins propaganda? Rly?
Wait. You spread bidens propaganda? Rly?
Nazis in Ukraine doesn’t justify the war, but it needs to be fucking addressed.
We are sending billions in weapons to Ukraine without the faintest idea where they end up, and which hands get to store them. Edit: We kind of do know, but close our eyes to that reality.
Last time we did this, it was Taliban/ISIS/Al-Queda. Shouts out to our Anti-Soviet freedom fighter Osama Bin Laden:
White ISIS might be just around the corner.
So what can we do? End the war.
Peace negotiations and humanitarian help for the people caught in the middle. Fuck Russia, but also fuck America and NATO. We(Western nations) provoked this war, and it has been brewing for at least a decade. We did absolutely nothing to prevent it. On the contrary: We supported fascists and nazis in Ukraine, and expanded militarybases across Russian borders.
Ukraine has a serious Nazi problem. You’re going to have to grow up and learn to deal with the real world.
The world has a serious nazi problem. Russia has way bigger nazi problems. Poland is run by the PiS, nazis.
You wanna see the real world honey? Nazis are all over, and it just helps the facist putin to support his claim of nazis in Ukraine
Show me anywhere in the world that has open Nazi units serving in the military.
Show me anywhere in the world that openly celebrates Nazis as national holidays.
Show me anywhere in the world that renames streets, shopping malls, stadiums after Nazis.
Show me anywhere in the world that runs Nazi indoctrination camps for children.
I can show you all of these for Ukraine.
Over to you. Darling.
All of the Balkans do that too. Croatia, Bosnia and Serbia have open nazis and fascists serving and commanding their militaries. Croats after the Ustaše, Bosniaks too. Serbs on the other hand glorify the Chetniks, rehabilitate mass murderers and anti-communist war criminals (rehabilitated Nikola Kalabic a few days ago as we speak). There is no city in Bosnia that has not got a street, school or sport club named after a Ustaša, or a Chetnik or a Bosniak radical muslim fascist. That doesn’t only happen in Ukraine. Greece, Bulgaria, Romania they all do it too.
You guys spread putins propaganda?
Western media used to spread Putin propaganda before February 2022 too, look.
For the new users here, I recommend reading the following thread to understand why lemmygrad users take the stance they take: https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/418335
Is there a particular reason why many of y’all here seem to support Russia in this conflict? It seems to me that Russia are the aggressors, and I kind of understand why Russia invaded Ukraine (strategic location and reduce their border with NATO), but isn’t it still the case that Ukrainian and Russian citizens shouldn’t have to suffer and be annexed to Russia? I’m asking this question in good faith, I’m still a baby socialist.
In particular, I recommend @CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml’s comment in that thread.
I also recommend reading this post: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/687025 (Titled «A comment on the Russia/NATO war»)
And then when you say you don’t support Ukraine, you’re the Nazi.
that’s right, people who don’t support literal nazis are actually nazis
No people with SS tattoos are literal nazis
somebody should let western left know
This is bizarre. You motherfuckers don’t see how stupid you look from the outside? Get fucked!
“from the outside” meaning from the viewpoint of pro-imperialists?
We have an influx of Liberandus here on lemmygrad too. Let’s deprogram.
I think on Lemmygrad we should really be proactive with banning.
Please ban me you fucking degenerates, jesus christ, I don’t want to see your braindead content.
degenerates
ukronazi supporter
mega sus fam
U can just stop browsing here…?
only when subjects don’t show any improvements and are persistent with same old attitude of – “not gonna get it”.
Or a proactive ban in case downvote rates surpass 30%.
Yeah for sure, if people are just lacking education and are willing to learn then we should do everything to help them out. We just need to keep the trolls out.
Would it be ok if down voted and upvoted posts were visible to mods as per “our instance our rule” or it would look/go bad for community?
It would to keep trolls and - only trolls - out without any false positives.
hard to say, but I think reporting is really the tool for this, when we see people acting like trolls then we report and that should be that
I remember in the early days of the reddit migration when you guys complained that instances immediately defederated you, now you’ve changed your minds? Maybe you just should defederate all other instances and have it over with.
Nah, we’d miss all your seething and coping.
