• HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    7·
    7 days ago

    The problem it can’t solve is that rich people might have to interact with mere humans. The car in a tube seats four and locks, so there’s zero chance you’ll have to sit next to a minority.

    I wonder if rail would be more appealing to them if the coaches were designed as multiple isolated cells that seated 4-6, rather than straight-through corridors that permit mingling. (I’ve seen some old designs like that, in German narrow-gauge form)

    • hono4kami@slrpnk.netOPMEnglish
      2·
      7 days ago

      The problem it can’t solve is that rich people might have to interact with mere humans.

      I can relate. We, in Indonesia, have a problem where politicians, whose never even ride a train before, gets to decide the policies about public transport, and those who gets the consequenece is low-middle class who uses public transport. There was a meme from a year ago where a tone-deaf politician says the overcrowded trains in Jakarta doesn’t exist even though it overcrowding is clearly a problem in regional line (KRL) due to lack of trains.

      I wonder if rail would be more appealing to them if the coaches were designed as multiple isolated cells that seated 4-6, rather than straight-through corridors that permit mingling.

      Assuming we’re talking about short distance trains, absolutely no, lol. It’s just space inefficient. I will understand if it is a long distance trains, and it is a thing.

    • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      01·
      7 days ago

      You think public transit would be better if there were more obstructed sight-lines? Hunh. Are you also volunteering for mop duty if that’s not actually how things turn out?

  • workerONE@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    7 days ago

    The Vegas loop is a 2 mile tunnel accessible only to Teslas. It’s not solving any problems. They want to expand it- I don’t think that will go well.

      • OfficerBribe@lemm.eeEnglish
        3·
        6 days ago

        Turns out it is a taxi service. I thought it is a tunnel that anyone could take to save time as well. Here’s a video of how it works.

        Another interesting bit that I discovered is that city is not paying for these tunnels, they are covered by Boring company. Now it makes a bit more sense why this thing was ever allowed.

  • kemsat@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    6 days ago

    I feel like we could just sell privately owned, battery powered cars that can ride the rail, which comes with unlimited access to rental cars, trucks, bikes, and scooters from the train station. Obviously there are private garages nearest to the stations such that richer people can exit their private cars, and switch to their private vehicles without dealing with the poors. For a price, of course.

  • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    2·
    7 days ago

    The thing that never ceases to astound me in the US is that the barrier for entry to public transport is so hilariously low, they have effectively nothing in most places so it’s absolutely trivial to quintuple the amount of public transport users in a few years if they just tried, and yet most places do NOTHING

    There is such an unmet demand for public transport that a bus startup should be eminently viable, but nope, no one even seems to be trying.
    Meanwhile in europe we already generally have at worst decent public transport and yet companies like flixbus exist, which i don’t even understand how they have ridership when they run routes parallel to railways that take like twice as long while obviously being less comfortable…

    • Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      2·
      7 days ago

      And they’ll throw their arms up and say “who could have predicted that ???” When something terrible happens (conveniently ignoring decades of road tunnels accidents and the safeties precautions we learned from them)

    • hono4kami@slrpnk.netOPMEnglish
      1·
      7 days ago

      Yeah, EV batteries and very narrow tunnel (so narrow you can’t open the car door apparently) is a bad combination

  • bluGill@fedia.io
    21·
    6 days ago

    Why would it? most people have never experienced good transit, just transit for those who after a few dwi’s can’t get their friends to drive them anymore. Transit money feels like throwing good money after bad. most republicans honestly embrace this

    meanwhile the democrats see transit as getting other people (poor, or at least someone else) off the road so they don’t care if a proposal that wouldn’t work for them becauseemost can’t imangine using it anyway. They alse see getting these someone else’s off the road as green which they hope is enough to solve global warming without having to make changes themself

    Democrats also see transit money as a way to bring on jobs or art - either way the more they spend on small segments the better. it never occurs to them that cheap projecs can do more and since transit is about the network that would inthe long run result in transit they would use.

    the above is a generalization. there are excaptions on both sides (though more democrats) who care about transit. this probably includes everyone reading this. How do we change the majority is the question. you will probahly cry when you admit the truth of the above.

  • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    1·
    7 days ago

    Musk is not “people in the US”, and most of those have no say in what “gets built”, so rephrase your blame, fellow crab in the bucket.

    • hono4kami@slrpnk.netOPMEnglish
      1·
      7 days ago

      Yeah, should have rephrased that. AFAIK Elon is a South African, not even US citizen right?

      I’m not even from USA to be clear, but my limited image of USA is that it lacks efforts of building public transport, especially compared to other developed countries. Heck, compared to developing countries even.

      One of the example, US seems like a perfect place to build a high-speed rail network. Yet, CAHSR seems to keep getting delayed. In comparison Morocco has a HSR. Even Indonesia has one opened last year.

      • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        0·
        7 days ago

        You’re gonna love the history rabbit hole re: the automotive industry lobbying and all but singlehandedly squashing rail expansion (see: highways), NGL. 👨🏽‍🍳

        • hono4kami@slrpnk.netOPMEnglish
          1·
          7 days ago

          I think we should stop saying “lobbying” and start saying “corruption” or “bribing” isntead

  • OfficerBribe@lemm.eeEnglish
    0·
    7 days ago

    Wait, how a tunnel can make a profit? Do you have to pay to have a privilege to drive through it?

    • theUwUhugger@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      6 days ago

      Its kinda like a taxi! The tunnel has drivers and teslas that will take from one end to the other, tho there is a video on YouTube that walking the distance is faster than the tunnel…

      • OfficerBribe@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        6 days ago

        I thought it’s a tunnel that you can drive through yourself to save some time, but turns out it really is just a taxi service that can travel only through these tunnels.

        Here’s a video of the whole experience. I would personally just have a walk instead.