• yesman@lemmy.world
      42·
      1 month ago

      So ethnic cleansing is a humanitarian project and it’s the Arab states that are to blame because they won’t take the people Israel wants to deport?

      The thing about this kind of lying is that it’s too phantasmagorical to be a mistake. You have to have an excellent grasp on Israel’s crimes attempt such a assault on the truth.

        • PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee
          21·
          1 month ago

          Weren’t those parts of Egypt and Israel both part of the Ottoman Empire at that point?

            • PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee
              21·
              1 month ago

              Migrating within your own country still counts as remaining native, and even if you want to contest that, they didn’t move to that land by invading, terrorizing and driving out the locals, and then just saying it was their turf now and if you don’t agree you’re an anti-arab racist. You are trying to claim that me moving to Denver is exactly the same as me leading a reconquista against the anglo-canadians because at some point in the past one of my ancestors was Québécois.

              The attempted revolt in Jordan was in retaliation for the king seeking to establish diplomatic recognition of Israel.

              The two state solutions are still fundamentally land theft by legitimizing the Israelis chasing them out at gunpoint during the Nakba.

              Also, all of the above is setting aside the fact that the Israelis are still taking land that is not theirs, something that Palestinian leaders refusing to recognize what they’d taken already does not in any way justify and ISTG if you try to say it does I’m just gonna report you for genocide apologism, and the settlers have gone full mask off that this is a Lebensraum project with the aim of purging all Arab land between the Nile and Euphrates.

                • PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee
                  21·
                  1 month ago

                  • the fact that you don’t agree doesn’t make it any less true. They were citizens of a country moving within their home country. They literally just moved the same way someone who got a new job opportunity might. As for the argument of “but it was ours 2,000 years ago before the we threw a tantrum and left because we weren’t allowed to enter one city specifically!” Jews kept living in the area, and those folks faced discrimination from the white folks claiming to be their billionth cousin twice removed showed up and started shooting anyone who had something that looked like good real estate.

                  • Because if anyone is a respectable arbiter of who belongs where, it’s the Brits! You just tried to pull “but the brits said no!” when just last week Starmer cancelled a program to just make Rwanda take all those Middle Eastern refugees. Maybe in 70 years your grandkid will be arguing about “well something something indian ocean traders!” to argue that East Africa should totally be considered an Arab homeland!

                  • BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA, there was one solution that recognized the region’s complex history, it was proposed by the people who actually called the place home, it was summarily ignored because it was too inconvenient for the brits wanting to ship their jews off somewhere else and using useful idjits in the community to manufacture consent for a genocidal deportation of jews from the empire, and the UN definition specifically states removal exactly to shut apologist douche nozzles down before they try to argue “but we didn’t kill any of them!” but yeah, you’re stanning for what was intended to basically be a country shaped concentration camp, no wonder they were willing to cooperate with the Nazis and currently have officially been ruled untrustworthy to actually distribute survivor funds to survivors instead of pocketing because “helping Israel is helping the survivors, also don’t ask about us regularly slurring on them and their families as “soap people” because we didn’t feel like we were being fucking heinous enough!”

                  • Conveniently ignored, I was being nice by just not mentioning you actually trying to argue “wah wah, why don’t we get to do genocidal expulsions when these people we regularly claim to be the natural betters of did it to us‽” By this logic Greece has free reign to brutally slaughter the israelis to the last because the that eight days of oil miracle happened just after the Maccabees didn’t just kill the Greeks in the region for at that point centuries, but also any jews they deemed to not be anti-greek enough. Do you want Megali 2.0‽ Because this dumb logic is how you get Megali 2.0!

                  • Yeah if only they just let the nice monarch recognize the armed theft of their land! Those jerks! They just can’t let this whole “you’re even fucking using my grandmother’s cooking bowl from when you stole my house!” thing go! Be the bigger people Palestinians…while we continue stealing more of your land illegally.

                  The fact that you assume “from the river to the seas Palestine will be free” means the genocide of Israelis shows you don’t see Palestinians as people but as predators. Maybe I’m rude, but at least I’m not a fucking racist pile of shit.