• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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    3 days ago

    Clearly the companies they work with China are able to figure these things out. And as he points out, Chinese companies are able to produce things with far less hassle so even massive tariffs don’t make buying American attractive.

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      3 days ago

      The world could indeed learn a whole lot from China’s efficiency, how they do business, and specifically from their advances in manufacturing.

      I see their point, but I disapprove of contributing to the destruction of the environment (from lengthy transport or industry potentially not using best emergent practices) because it’s “cheaper” and that’s what I was trying to touch on.

      I’m no fan of Trump or his policies, but I don’t think it’s a necessarily a bad thing that he’s encouraging American industry to develop (even if his reasons for doing so are vastly different from my own) - but as they pointed out - his policies are hilariously not to much effect, if any.

      If products produced in China and sold here in the US are “bad”, it’s solely the fault of the American capitalists who don’t have a care in the world besides selling the lowest common denominator in mass quantities, with no quality control on their side, consumer support, or care for how it’s made or transported. And of course those who blindly consume are responsible as well.

      If products are made in China and consumed in the states, there is usually no way to have things repaired or serviced as a consumer. We also have no idea what chemicals are being used and are exposing ourselves to and we can’t directly control or quantify emissions from Chinese factories besides voting with our wallets. A lot of waste is produced because nothing is built to last - not because it was made in China, but because it was all orchestrated by uncaring capitalists.

      If the global supply chain was localized to geographic regions, we can greatly reduce emissions from transport. With regulation and our technological advances, we can also build new industry that is significantly less harmful to the environment and the people that work and live around it. I’m not claiming that China isn’t implementing new policies or practices or trying to make light of their efforts to reduce their emissions.

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        Sure, I agree that domestic manufacturing capacity is desirable, and producing local is obviously better than relying on imports. What the video highlights though is just how far behind the US is in terms of industrial capacity. A serious attempt at reindustrialization would need to be far more comprehensive than just putting tariffs on imports.

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        you’re not at all wrong and the only problem i see is that our nation’s leaders have no interest in doing these things despite the lip service that suggests otherwise; they also have control of our nation’s purse strings to pay experts who make them aware of the hurdles at bringing back manufacturing to the west and, since we almost entirely elect career politicians now, they can see for themselves that taking these how these actions will estrange their donors and cost them their political careers in the process.

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        The point here is that there are US companies that currently rely on manufacturing in China, and they are unable to find American companies that are able to do what Chinese companies are doing.

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          Yes, but no.

          The customer experience and expectations are different. American companies can do what Chinese companies are doing. American companies are unaware or unwilling to provide the same type of customer service (and likely will be at a higher price point.)