• DarkCloud@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    The number of leftists saying they’ve lost the election due to recent events is disappointing. Getting out and voting is all they have to do.

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      4 months ago

      That’s not the game. The game is persuading about 100,000 of America’s most politically ignorant and disengaged adults across about 6 states.

      The Democrats getting a massive hard-on for their civility fetish and conceding the debate to Trump and the fascists for the foreseeable future is the problem.

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        4 months ago

        But gosh. Sure Trump wants to take away my rights, but Biden is like old. I don’t know what to do?

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          4 months ago

          Like many others I would vote for Biden’s animated corpse over Trump, but I’m not a mythical “undecided voter”

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            Like many others I would vote for Biden’s animated corpse over Trump, but I’m not a mythical “undecided voter”

            They exist, sadly.

            They’re awful. Or, at least, awful citizens. The problem is that the Dem party thinks they’re “In the middle”, but though some might THINK of themselves that way, that’s not what they really are. They’re people who vote on vibes. When the Dems move policy right, it doesn’t ACTUALLY sway most of them. They don’t have real policy positions, and they’re quick to endorse contradictory positions as simple ‘common sense’. One might think this level of ignorance would lend itself to GOP partisanship, and probably it does in many cases, but I have unfortunately known pretty indisputably non-GOP voters who have this same poor civic education.

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                4 months ago

                On the bright(?) side, at least the woman at 0:55 has turned into a reliable Democrat voter these days because her issue is actually on the ballot…

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          Seriously, if we just call them stupid enough times, it’s for sure going to convince swing-state voters to support our candidate. Maybe use a more patronizing tone next time

          ^^^/s

          We really don’t learn. At some point, we have to accept we’re the stupid ones if we fail to learn anything from 2016. Then again, we are American, so it definitely tracks. lol

          All that said, sorry if that was just a joke, and not meant for anyone but other people already making fun of voters voting against their own interests

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        4 months ago

        40 million people didn’t vote at all last time. If they don’t want to elect a dictatorship perhaps they might turn up and vote.

        In a sense, it is the easiest problem to solve. Trump could be dog food in November with one simple trick -Voting.

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          4 months ago

          IF we assume that:

          • That group reliably breaks against Trump at a higher percentage than the statewide average in their state AND

          • Those people even live in close enough states to make a difference AND

          • Those people can even be convinced to turn out given the horseshit candidates available

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      4 months ago

      i think that macron and starmer towing american hegemony and mitigating leftists election victories is a bigger indication of where things are going whether or not the recent events end up work in our favor.

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        4 months ago

        Agreed, corporate run centrists and establishment neoliberals act as stop gaps preventing the leftwing promises of democracy and enlightenment era leftist politics from being truely fulfilled, by instead deferring to the profit driven whims of wealthy internationalists and Capitalists, which undermine national interests whilst appearing to support national interests.

        It’s ugly and incompetent. If I’m to be honest, it’s a national health and security issue too. But people act like you’re speaking gibberish or saying something controversial when you point it out because of the hegemonic conditioning of Capitalism and its economic falsehoods.