• cimbazarov@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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    2 days ago

    How do y’all talk to libs about how the media is portraying Trump as subservient to Putin? For example refusing aid to Ukraine and easing sanctions on Russia. I don’t really have a good answer other than the long history after the collapse of the Soviet Union, and that the US and Russia would probably never be allies.

    I can understand why he’d be hard on Ukraine, but even I have trouble understanding why Trump seems so friendly with Russia

    • cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml
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      2 days ago

      How do y’all talk to libs about how the media is portraying Trump as subservient to Putin?

      Ask them why they love war so much. Whatever the ulterior motive, finally an American administration is trying to make peace with Russia and this is what you are most upset about?

      And since i live in Europe and have to deal with our own uniquely European brand of deranged, delusional liberals, i usually add: i wish our own politicians were as interested in peace rather than war. More money for war means less money for your parents’ pensions and your children’s schools.

      Of course we as communists understand the more complex geopolitics at play here. We don’t believe that Trump is just doing this because he’s some kind of do-gooder peacenik. But there’s no need to get into the weeds and start discussing imperial strategy when talking to liberals. They only comprehend the most simplistic of narratives and so you have to keep your responses extremely simple and dumbed down. Nuance is a no-no.

      Peace good, war bad. I don’t care about Putin or Trump, i care about stopping the dying. Why do you want people to keep dying? That is all you need to say to them.

    • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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      2 days ago

      Its fairly clear to anyone following geopolitics that Trump appeasing Putin is an obvious attempt at wooing Russia away from China.

      Like its not even a secret, every single conservative figure mentions it, from Tucker Carlson to Narco Rubio to Trump himself, this “oh trump is a putin puppet” rhetoric is just infantile discourse.

      Blue maga likes to portray themselves as the intellectual wing of american politics but damn they so dumb too

    • Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml
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      2 days ago

      Trump is friendly to Putin because Putin says nice things about Trump. Putin says nice things about Trump because Trump is vain and highly susceptible to flattery. (Look how easy it was for elon to brown nose himself into being trump’s left hand.)

      Trump is impressed by Putin’s use of violence and his resolve. Trump would be afraid of Putin if he yelled and made threats. Trump should be scared but because Putin smiles and says flattering things he isn’t. Trump thinks he is getting respect from a dangerous person and he thinks that means he must be a dangerous person too.

      Putin makes trump feel like a “big man.”

      Trump hates zelenski because he’s a fraud. He acts all tough, talking in his growly voice like he’s batman, wearing millitary slacks and looking scrufy but then all he does is beg for help and money. When he isn’t begging he’s complaining that the help he got isn’t enough and it is everyone else’s fault.

      Zelenski is a grifter. Trump hates that because inside he knows he is a grifter too. Trump isn’t the big deal businessman. the savvy politician or the billionaire land tycoon he pretends to be, he’s a 78 year old playboy failson who never made anything on his own. And everywhere he looks he is seeing that America is a grift too. He wanted to “Make it Great Again” but the more he looks the more he sees its just layers of kick backs and pay offs papered over and held together with string. Zelenski just reminds him of all that.