[Idea] If you don’t want to see huge flags taking space over actual drawings in the Canvas, pick the biggest flag that you can find to deface.

As long as a lot of people are doing that, the ones templating larger flags will be forced to reduce their layouts and give more room for actual drawings.

[Reasoning] When it comes to country flags, I think that the immense majority of the users can be split into four groups:

  1. The ones who don’t want to see country flags at all.
  2. The ones who are OK with smaller flags, but don’t want to see larger ones.
  3. The ones who want to see a specific large flag taking a huge chunk of space.
  4. The ones who want to see the whole canvas burning, like the void.

I’m myself firmly rooted into #1, but this idea is a compromise between #1, #2 and #4.

Typically #3 uses numbers (and/or bots) to seize a huge chunk of the canvas to their flags. Well, let’s use numbers against it then. As long as #1, #2 and #4 are trying to wreck the same flag, we win.

[inb4]

But what about identity flags?

Not a problem. They’re typically bands instead of thick squares, and people drawing them are fairly accommodating.

But what about [insert another thing]

Even if [thing] is a problem, it’s probably minor in comparison with huge country flags.

What should be the template?

None. We don’t need one, as long as everyone is working against the same large flag.

Just draw something of your choice over the flag, preferably over its iconic features.

But I’m not creative enough for that!

No matter how shitty your drawing is, it’s probably still way more original than a country flag. So don’t feel discouraged.

That said, you can always help someone else with their drawing. Or plop in some text. Or just void.

Why are you posting this now, you bloody Slowpoke?

I wish that I thought about this before Canvas 2024. But better later than never. (And better early by a year for Canvas 2025.)

EDIT: addressing on general grounds some whining from group #3 (the ones who want to see a specific large flag taking a huge chunk of the canvas space).

You do realise that this sort of “war against the largest flag” should benefit even you, as long as the biggest flag is not the one you’re working with, right? Even for you, this makes the canvas a more even level field. Let us not forget that you love to cover other flags with your own.

  • Lvxferre@mander.xyzOP
    5·
    2 months ago

    I’m satisfied with how things turned out, with art going all over the flag and the stars shining through, but it didn’t seem considerate in the beginning.

    It’s often like this, to give you a false impression of a compromise. I’ve seen it all the time in r/place, for example. (Doubly true in pixelplanet, but that’s… eh, let’s say that biggest drawing there is a swastika.)

    And typically, it goes like this:

    1. Claim a huge space of the canvas for the sake of the flag.
    2. Lay waste over whatever is in the middle of the way, be it drawings or flags from other herds.
    3. “Oh fuck, it’s too big for us to defend. People are drawing random stuff over it.”
    4. Eventually let the people drawing random stuff to do it, under the terms dictated by the flag itself. Under a discourse that sounds a lot like “this is the land of Our Holy Symbol. However, since we’re magnanimous, we shall turn a blind eye to your doodle defacing it.”
    5. [If applicable] Shift the blame of the step #2 on others. “Nooo, I didn’t do it. Others did.”

    Besides the façade of compromise, there’s also a second motivation for fourth last step: it’s a way to co-opt people drawing random stuff to protect the flag, as they likely care about the surroundings of their own drawings.

    Please do note, however, that people drawing those large flags do not want to reach an actual compromise. And playing nice (cooperation) only works if the other side is also playing nice - we shouldn’t be playing dove in a hawk-dove game.

    • jpablo68@infosec.pub
      1·
      2 months ago

      something happened in r/place with the mexican flag, it got artwork on each of the bands, so what if “flaggers” put artwork on their flags, could be local memes or landmarks.

      • Lvxferre@mander.xyzOP
        3·
        2 months ago

        Then IMO we should left the artwork alone but still pick on the flag. Specially on iconic parts, that are typically uncovered by artwork. (In the case of the Mexican flag it would be the eagle over the cactus)