Even the teamsters are showing up.

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      I’m glad you’re curious, you can do an internet search and find articles. You are curious, right? I mean certainly you are not asking so that you can claim it is invalid unless there is an exact year, month, and day that everyone swapped over. That would be disingenuous and bad faith argumentation. Surely you are above that.

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        All I’m looking for is a time frame when the parties “switched”, it’s telling that you can’t provide one. Even a definitive time when the parties finished switching would be sufficient but again you seem unable to provide one.

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          If you want a timeline please feel free to read a more in depth article about it.

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            No article provides that timeline, it’s clear you can’t provide it either.

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              Every resource about it gives times and lists specific examples like Goldwater. It’s clear you did not check and are not interested in good faith discussion. (As was obvious from the start.)

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                You should check your history better, Goldwater only opposed the 1964 civil rights act, he supported 1957, 1960, & 24th admendment. His switching had more to do with his opposition to new deal policies.

                It was a good try, at least you attempted to provide evidence for your claim. The problem with this argument is for every dem senator or rep that changed parties there are 20 that stayed.

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                  Goldwater campaigned on opposing civil rights as the first direct attempt to claim southern EC votes by mobilizing racists and other regressive groups. Whether or not he actually formerly believed in the racism he deliberately stoked is immaterial at that point.

                  Nor is the argument that individual senators and congressmen changed parties, it is that the Repub party deliberately focused on campaigns and policies that would result in racists voting for them. I’m not sure why you are misrepresenting that.

                  Southern Strategy and the deliberate decisions of the Repub party in decades following have inextricably linked the whole party with a core block of racist voters. Now even so-called “moderate” Repubs must accept the overt racism alongside whatever wedge issue they are voting for.

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                    Goldwater campaigned on opposing civil rights as the first direct attempt to claim southern EC votes by mobilizing racists and other regressive groups.

                    He opposed specific clauses and efforts of the civil rights movement of his time. Specifically pieces that violated his libertarian ideologies.

                    Nor is the argument that individual senators and congressmen changed parties, it is that the Repub party deliberately focused on campaigns and policies that would result in racists voting for them. I’m not sure why you are misrepresenting that.

                    I understand logic is hard for some people so I’ll break it down. The same Republicans that unanimously voted for every civil rights act but one continued to represent their constituents as Republicans, the same racists democrats stayed represented their part into the 2000s.

                    Southern Strategy and the deliberate decisions of the Repub party in decades following have inextricably linked the whole party with a core block of racist voters. Now even so-called “moderate” Repubs must accept the overt racism alongside whatever wedge issue they are voting for.

                    Race issues are not important issues for either party since the 70s, it’s been the economy.