• surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    France just had to be forced out of African colonial holdings within the past year, and they sabotaged infrastructure on their way out.

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      2 hours ago

      I’m curious why you’re not giving specifics. Maybe because it’s part of the Russian colonial programme? France left, willingly, when those states withdrew their invitation. They didn’t force themselves in in the first place, they were there to fight Boko Haram and like ilk. The states had some reservations “The French are going to do all the fighting without developing our own military capabilities so afterwards we’ll still be vulnerable”. Germany said “yep we’ll expect the same that’s how they roll” so Germany went in together with the French, specifically doing training. Both left together once uninvited.

      And don’t tell me they should’ve left bases etc. for Wagner to use.

      I’m curious: Is Russia currently involved in an imperialist, genocidal conquest of Ukraine? Yes or no. Once that’s out of the way we can start talking about Africa.

      …and don’t fucking even begin talking about Uranium. Noone needs North African Uranium, Australia has everyone covered for millennia to come.

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        2 hours ago

        Ahh. So now the right wing foreign policy is justified, and it’s Chad’s fault. LoL.

        Does your script not cover Africa? Is that why you need to deflect to another place entirely?

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          Chad, as in the country, no. Chad, as in the powers that be in Chad selling it out to foreign interest, yes, they’re very much at fault. The Déby dynasty (I guess that’s how it’s going to be now) is better than Habré but come on none of them are worth even a single clap of applause.

          Overall, that’s some real neo-colonial, infantilising, BS from you, there, “Oh these poor undeveloped countries can’t make decisions for themselves, they’re at the whim of foreign influence, they have no agency”. That’s like 1/1000th of a step away from “we should invade and rule for them because they can’t”.

          Does your script not cover Africa? Is that why you need to deflect to another place entirely?

          No, Tovarish Vatnov. That is not the reason.

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            2 hours ago

            It’s the opposite of infantilizing. I greatly admire the people of Chad for kicking out their colonizers. I’m not surprised the French engaged in sabotage on their way out.

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              There was no kicking anyone out. The government asked France to leave, and France left. That’s not a kick.

              Still no condemnation of Russian imperial aggression. You know just because you’re not using your lemmygrad main doesn’t mean that you’re not obvious AF.

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                2 hours ago

                Flipping over the table on your way out does not signal a cordial exit nor amicable split.

                I push back against NATO propaganda on here all the time. It’s just not relevant to this discussion. Check the modlog, and you’ll see plenty of my pushback. But if you want to engage with that part of your script, do it in the relevant discussions.

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                  1 hour ago

                  Flipping over the table on your way out does not signal a cordial exit nor amicable split.

                  Don’t flatter yourself. I do not fraternalise with imperialists, campist, non-campist, left, right, middle, doesn’t matter.