@k4r4b3y TBH I stopped paying attention to SSB about 2 years ago, and even when I was active I just used the web interface (and sometimes the CLI for pub management)
@k4r4b3y Oh yeah, on phone I used Manyverse. Big props to Andre Saltz if he’s still working on it.
Just throwing this out there – if I were taking up the task of censorship-resistant online community creation today, I’d probably focus on Matrix. It already has a very solid backend and ability to sync servers; there is a lot of low-hanging fruit in the clients, though
He left Manyverse development 2 months ago. Someone else hopefully will take up the mantle.
Matrix
I don’t think matrix is censorship resistant at all. It relies on DNS, which is centralized. Also, these criticisms of matrix are valid reasons to not pick it imo: https://telegra.ph/why-not-matrix-08-07
@k4r4b3y I got thru #8 and they were all the same nonissue IMO – yes, it’s an append-only log like a lot of decentralized systems and yes that means it’s not inherently linear and that you can’t delete stuff.
That’s cool. I might try nostr for that, although I still think secure scuttlebutt’s design is better.
@k4r4b3y @rafael_xmr Just poking in to say I also love SSB’s totally decentralized design. It’s what I would choose for maximum censorship resistance.
That said, the world has basically chosen Federated architectures rather than fully decentralized ones: Matrix, Mastodon, etc.
An important requirement for a social network… is people
Where can I begin with SSB? Sadly, almost all of its clients seem like they are abandoned development.
@k4r4b3y TBH I stopped paying attention to SSB about 2 years ago, and even when I was active I just used the web interface (and sometimes the CLI for pub management)
Web interface of what? Manyverse?
@k4r4b3y Oh yeah, on phone I used Manyverse. Big props to Andre Saltz if he’s still working on it.
Just throwing this out there – if I were taking up the task of censorship-resistant online community creation today, I’d probably focus on Matrix. It already has a very solid backend and ability to sync servers; there is a lot of low-hanging fruit in the clients, though
He left Manyverse development 2 months ago. Someone else hopefully will take up the mantle.
I don’t think matrix is censorship resistant at all. It relies on DNS, which is centralized. Also, these criticisms of matrix are valid reasons to not pick it imo: https://telegra.ph/why-not-matrix-08-07
@k4r4b3y I got thru #8 and they were all the same nonissue IMO – yes, it’s an append-only log like a lot of decentralized systems and yes that means it’s not inherently linear and that you can’t delete stuff.
I’ll look over the rest later
The real issue is graph anal in social networks: You don’t want to store all graph info all the time on all nodes. I want only my friends to know who i am. That’s privacy. Technically RS can do that – but you’ll miss out on the fun factor.