• imogen_underscore [it/its, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    29 days ago

    well, to put it nicely, this person is clearly not a student of dialectical and historical materialism, and is engaging in liberal vibes-based analysis (aka idealism). it follows that they don’t actually understand imperialism or systems of oppression, and are just succumbing to the liberal urge to shit on people to the left of them who are actually educated politically and historically and have principles backed by that. they would probably struggle to provide a coherent definition of “imperialism”. the “Uyghur Genocide” is fictitious btw, so that’s another tell that the poster is a hapless victim of western propaganda.

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      Oh materialism in a communist way, thats why google’s definition didn’t make sense.

      There is far more evidence that the Uyghur genocide happened, than it didn’t. Even if it wasn’t a genocide, its still Crimes Against Humanity.

      When it comes to the whole imperialism aspect, of course the U.S is imperialist, its stupid to say they’re not. But supporting Russia because they’re imperialist in the other way is wrong, because its still imperialism.

      That’s the point of the post, I don’t see it as vibes based analysis and moreso just pointing this out.

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        29 days ago

        Claiming China’s handling of fundamentalist extremism fomented by salafist propaganda flooding to the region as a residual affect of the CIA activities in Afghanistan in the 80s is somehow on par with actual genocides like the one ongoing in Gaza right now is beyond disgusting and you should be ashamed of posting what is essentially modern day holocaust denial.

      • imogen_underscore [it/its, she/her]@hexbear.net
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        29 days ago

        fascinating that you immediately downgrade it from a genocide at the slightest pushback. perhaps because you know you have no idea what you’re talking about and are just regurgitating what some western rag newspaper or NATO stan twitter account told you. there is precisely zero evidence of the Uyghur genocide occurring because it is fictitious.

        again, happy to admit my belief system failed me and that I’m wrong if you present a single shred of evidence. you will find such evidence does not exist.

        Russia is not imperialist by the Leninist definition (if you’re not aware, he was something of an authority on the topic). maybe the useless, liberal vibes based definition of “when big country does bad thing”. I think words should mean things though, and that the truth is important. we might be different in that regard.

        • irelephant [he/him]🍭@lemm.eeOP
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          29 days ago

          I’m not downgrading it from genocide, I’m saying that its still a right’s violation, since some groups classify it as such, but don’t consider it genocide.

      • LoveWitch [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        29 days ago

        Duuuude

        If you don’t know what materialism means to a tankie then what makes you an expert in understanding why tankies think the USA is evil?

        Read a damn book about Marxism before trying to psychoanalyze Marxists maybe?

      • Jabril [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        Where is the evidence? I’ve looked for years and haven’t found it. There are a lot of claims from people paid by the military industrial complex and 5 Eyes governments but they never have evidence. Can you show it?

        On the imperialism point, you are displaying the idealist vibes analysis that was described by saying Russia is imperialist. You need to have a definition of imperialism with set material conditions and then see if Russia fits that definition. For Marxists, we use Lenin’s analysis of what constitutes imperialism and Russia does not fall under that. At most we might say they have imperialist ambitions, but in the modern era Russia has never fit the definition for imperialism