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    We’ve supplied you with works showing the definition that OP and every even semi-serious political philosopher, both liberal and communist means when they say it.

    Why are you dying on this hill? Just educate yourself.

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      Dude, I literally showed you the dictionary. You think that Wikipedia, the OED, and everyone else is wrong but one dead Italian communist was right. Yes, pinko maranara had half a point in that some bad things have been done in the past in the name of liberalism, but that can be said for every major political philosophy.

      I find it very telling that not one of you russian trolls can tell me who you would support in the upcoming US election.

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        You think that Wikipedia, the OED, and everyone else is wrong but one dead Italian communist was right.

        There’s 30 pages of citations, he goes through every major liberal philosopher and most of the leaders, if you want to say everyone from Locke to Smith to De Tocqueville and Washington to Jefferson to Teddy Roosevelt didn’t understand their own philosophy, that’s a hell of a take.

        I find it very telling that not one of you russian trolls can tell me who you would support in the upcoming US election.

        Do you genuinely believe that anyone you’re talking to is a Russian troll? You can look at people’s post histories.

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            Here is the fun part of this hill. I’m not dying on it. No matter what direction thus little internet debate goes, at the end of the day, liberal still means liberal. You all insisting that up means down and liberal is bad because reasons doesn’t change anything except amuse me. It’s like watching monkeys flung poo. I’m not dieing on this hill, I got my feet up earing popcorn. Let me know when y’all get the dictionary updated.

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              A vote for trump. A vote that looks at the only two possible outcomes of this election and see no difference between the two. Thank you, go fuck yourself.

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                I live in South Carolina, it’s never going blue, but it could potentially result in federal funds for PSL.

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          Wiki has citations too. Why do you think that they are all wrong? I don’t recall Smith ever agruing “Luberals bad therefore vote for fascism”

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            Read the damn book. The point of the book isn’t “liberals bad”. I am trying to give you a more nuanced view of what the freedom of liberalism means so you can understand what OP was talking about and you can meaningfully participate in these conversations instead of insisting that the every philosopher on all sides of the issue didn’t understand what they are talking about.