• PugJesus@lemmy.worldM
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    1 month ago

    You’re telling me Orthodox Jews living in Israel oppose zionism and are harrassed by Israeli fascists? Sounds like a people with a commendable spirit and culture to me.

    You’re thinking of the ultra-Orthodox Haredi. And they’re… not pleasant people.

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        1 month ago

        “Oppose mass murder” is a strong term. “Think Israel is an illegitimate state because of some theological stuff about it Not Being Time Yet™ but hate non-Jewish minorities and don’t give a fig for dead Palestinians except insofar as the ongoing war might strip them of their long-standing exemption from Israeli military service”

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          I’m going to be honest with you, I don’t really care what motivates them or really about the specific details you’ve decided I’m talking about. They don’t have insitutional power in Israel, and the Orthodox Jews I saw being harrassed on video were flying palestinian flags. The point I was getting at is thay Jews who oppose Zionism and colonialism are a credit to their people.

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            They don’t have insitutional power in Israel,

            The Ultra-Orthodox parties are literally part of the current ruling coalition dedicated to Palestinian genocide.