This is more of a 2 part question. Should child porn that does not include a real child be illegal? If so, who is being harmed by it?

The other question is; does giving a pedophile access to “imitation” children give them an outlet for their desire, so they won’t try to engage with real children, or does it just reinforce their desire, thus helping them to rationalize their behavior and lead to them being more encouraged to harm real children?

I’ve heard psychologists discuss both sides, but I don’t think we have any real life studies to go off of because the technology is so new.

I’m just curious what the other thought out there are from people who are more liberty minded.

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    I did read yours. What makes you think otherwise?

    The fact that you constantly avoid the challenge of proving your convictions true and correct.

    The other explanation is that you’re simply scared of it, or trolling, but I preferred to think you were simply too preoccupied with writing yet another comment. I don’t anymore.

    I wouldn’t need to prove shit

    Uh-huh. You absolutely has to do, since “burden of proof…” and all that.

    But you won’t. Because you realize how weak, irresponsible and “let this be other people’s problem” your train of logic is.

    Fgures.

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      Except what you’re asking me to prove I believe, isn’t actually what I believe, because you refuse to even think about what I am actually saying.

      You’ve made assumptions, and because those assumptions are so heinously evil, you won’t even consider what I have to say.

      Because you’re acting based on assumptions, you keep missing when trying to dismantle my argument, because its not my argument you’re attacking, but your imagined idea of what I’m saying.

      So here we are, going in circles, me trying to get through to you, you accusing me of avoiding the point, because I keep trying to force you to see my actual point, instead of the imagined one that you’ve fixated on.

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        If you were honest about your philosophy, you’d seek some way to prove it - and yourself - to be solid, logical and, well, honest.

        But you’re not. You’re looking for explanations, excuses, ways to divert the discussion, distractions, and finally insults. Like an undereducated AIs guided by inflexible software.

        There’s no way in hell that you’re going to ever take the responsibility for your choices and suggestions. Because all you have in store is a bunch of idiotic ideas that are supposed to be "other poeople’s burden.

        Would that be all?

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          I see you’re a broken record now, attempting yet another character assassination instead of dismantling my argument. Nothing of what I’ve said allows you to draw the conclusions about me that you are presenting. It’s disgraceful.

          If anything, you’ve made it even more certain that anyone else coming across this exchange, won’t take your side. Good job.

          You’re the one avoiding the real discussion.

          I bet that even if I did provide the proof you are asking for, you’d find some way to invalidate it and require more. It’s a classic arguing tactic among the brainless. So many times I’ve backed myself up with salient points, including now, only for them to be utterly ignored.

          Who cares if you’re wrong? If you keep claiming to be right, at least it feels like there’s still a chance that you are.

          But there isn’t. You’re wrong.

          That will be all.

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            I see you’re a broken record now,

            Yes. There’s no merit in a discussion where one side pushes possibly troubling, hurtful propaganda and ideals, while not being ready to actually back them up with actions, thus setting an example that it can be done, that it’s not that bad. Much like every dictator ever demands for others to make it happen.

            You’re wrong.

            Feel free to prove it in real word, Internet dictator.

            That will be all.

            It was over long ago.

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              It was over the moment you didn’t read my comment, and responded with nonsense. Ever since, I’ve been trying to get you to admit that mistake, so we could have a real discussion.

              By demanding action, you sidestep the actual exchange of ideas. Because online, here in a thread of mere text, ideas and the words that represent them, is all we have. By demanding action, you avoid having to defend your own views at all. You’ve made yourself look utterly devoid of reason to anyone capable of realising that. Which is everyone with their head on straight.

              I’d need to be a mod to be a dictator, so I could ban you. Instead I’m right here on your level, trying to use words to explain why you’re wrong. I demand nothing from you, except the basic ability to fucking read. You’re the one demanding the literally impossible. That I bring grand actions as ideological proof, into a fucking anonymous text thread.

              You just need to scroll the fuck up, and fucking read what I had to say. You’re still responding as if I think something I don’t. You’re afraid of understanding what I have to say, that you might agree with me if you did, so afraid that you wont take off your beer goggles and look at reality with clear eyes. You’d rather appear insane to anyone watching than risk reality proving you wrong.

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                “It’s over… B-bbut not really! I don’t care about any further discussion and let me tell you in length just how much I don’t care!”

                Predictable. The likes of you are all talk. You can’t get enough of your own words, you feel euphoric about re-reading your comments (and whole discussion while at that) at least a few times.

                But that’s just talk, no walk. And as such it deserves no attention.

                Would that be all?

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                  We are in an anonymous text thread. There is only talk here, the moment you began demanding a walk, that was just you sticking your fingers into your ears and going “laalaalaa”. I will not stop trying to pull them out.

                  And I’m not afraid of admitting I care. Maybe I can’t change your stance on this matter, but I want to at least make you think about how utterly idiotic your discussion methods are. How you’ve undermined your own position by sidestepping a real discussion, and hence leaving your actual points undefended. All you have left is to keep claiming you’re still on top, but with no language to actually show that is the case.

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                    “This is the end of discussion!”

                    Right. Self-importance, helluiva drug, am I right?

                    We are in an anonymous text thread

                    …but it didn’t prevent you from using “everyone who may read it will think you idiot” argument.

                    You’re not thinking straight.

                    Would that be all, or are you going to continue, still trying to avoid your responsibilites?