Always upvote my boy Ben!
I found a YouTube link in your post. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
It’s not just sport. A good chunk of accusations thrown at Russia and China boil down to “they have the nerve to do what we have been doing for years! It’s outrageous!”
Opressive USA regime forces people with asthma to be athletes. Or maybe literally everyone in USA have asthma and there is no choice.
or it’s just cover for doping
No, no way, land of the free wouldn’t do it!
I mean China and Russia doped too, not to be a whataboutist, just saying that’s what you get with all imperialist nation states
Neither China nor Russia are imperialist nations
yeah, and ice cream is hot
but seriously:
China and Russia both try to expand their countries by obsorbing smaller nations, which is imperialist in my book
That’s simply not true. Please read Lenin
wtf, of course this is true and what does lenin have to do with current political conflicts of nations that didn’t even exist at his time
They’re asking you to read what actual imperialism is. Lenin discusses this and it still applies to this day. End-stage of capitalism is imperialism and even if you don’t want to get “theoretical” or talk about “old dusty books” how is what China and Russia do considered “imperialism” when in both countries; there is over 100 military bases from one country surrounding them?
“Oh, well that wouldn’t happen if they weren’t so aggressive!” ~ typical response when asked.
Why are they being aggressive? Why is it only so densely clustered around nations with regime differences? A regime-change happens in Ukraine when separatists revolt, gets replaced with a hostile one to spread a military pact that borders the country and somehow Russia is the aggressive one?
What nations is China “subtlety” influencing? Are you pulling out the Tibet argument? The nation of religious slave-owners? Or, perhaps, Taiwan? The remnants of the literal Fascist collaborators exiled to an Island? Or India, whom is making accords and amends with China right now on their border issue?
Or do you actually believe U.S State Department propaganda bullshit on mystical Confucian hackers/spies doing espionage on our failing, aging infrastructure and sabotaging our easily bribed and corrupt corporations who own nearly everything in the country?
would the US be not imperialist if canada and mexico would be against it? doesn’t China have a military presence in africa? is that just different somehow?
Why are you not answering any of the questions you have been asked and brought up Canada and Mexico instead (Which, by the way, if we had done you would 100% be screeching WhaTaBOuTisM at us)?
You ignored the military base part (the fact that one nation over the entire world has that) and the general implication of that. Canada is another Western settler nation with a similar historical background that would have zero reason to have competing interests with the U.S even in the 1900s (unless over minor things, if you really want to get pedantic). Mexico and the rest of Latin America is a GREAT example, actually.
Look at the history of military intervention and how the capitalists of the West completely stripped and destroyed these nations and keep them subservient under IMF debt/leverage. A nation like Venezuela; whom is against it; is mercilessly lambasted, sanctioned and attacked at every opportunity. That’s why they AREN’T against it (Mexico and America or any other Latin American nation). This is what that one user meant by a “materialist view”. That view Venezuela has is also known as “siege mentality” if you want to look it up in a more formal sense.
You’re vaguely gesturing towards Belt and Road initiatives with a doomer mindset that obviously it must be imperialism. Meanwhile, Belt and Road actually provides tangible support and direct aid to Africa unlike the IMF handing a massive bag of cash to local despots and warlords beholden to private and/or Western interests that further indebt the nation.
Do you really want me to sit here and describe the amount of times that happened vs actual railroads/infrastructure built by China? Do you understand how much they’re undercutting IMF loans and how little leverage/debt they undergo compared to the IMF, the main financier arm of the global West who pushes these nations into poverty either economically or if not, a regime change??
also, parenti quote
The definition of Imperialism you are working from is not the same as those replying to you. You are working from the non-Marxist definition of imperialism while others are working from the Marxist definition. From Prolewiki:
Lenin is often credited for having synthesized a Marxist analysis of imperialism with the publishing of his pamphlet Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism in 1916, most notably on the foundation of the earlier work of John A. Hobson entitled Imperialism: A Study. Beginning with the first paragraph of his pamphlet, Vladimir Lenin wrote that rapid growth of industry and concentration of production in growing enterprises represent the key characteristic of capitalism.[1]
Multiple theorists have updated, deepened, developed or critically engaged with the classical analysis of Imperialism. Other theorists developed different conceptualisations, including most notably Kwame Nkrumah, remaining situated within the framework of scientific socialism. Most recently, the concept of neoimperialism has emerged in the work of Cheng Enfu.
The development of imperialism in the global economy also reinforces a dialectical relationship between core-periphery countries, mainly dependency and subordination of underdeveloped countries to imperialist economies. In conjunction with these developments, new theoretical models were proposed to understand developments, such as dependency theory and world-systems theory.
Lenin’s Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism for more information.
By this definition the US would no longer be imperialist, so incorrect, also china is most certainly not doing that?
they do the same thing just in an abstract way, instead of taking land directly, they take influence through war
so what is the country that fights these abstract influences from the US? ain’t ukraine an US proxy explicitly since 2014?
Why is that abstract, but redrawing borders on a map isn’t?
I said MORE abstract
You said
they do the same thing just in an abstract way, instead of taking land directly, they take influence through war
You didn’t say “more abstract”.
And even if you did, that still doesn’t answer the question.
You didn’t give any example of these “abstract ways” either.
You gotta get a materialist worldview comrade, read some Lenin rather than posing a definition and immediately conceding
Imperialist? You have a strange relationship with that word.
