• alphanerd4@lemmy.worldOPM
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    https://vault.fbi.gov/domestic-terrorism-symbols-guide/domestic-terrorism-symbols-guide-part-01/view

    i mean absolutely no personal disrespect to any of you, but I find myself genuinely coming away with the opinion that this might be the laziest community I have ever been responsible for helping build.

    and this is an offshoot of a subreddit

    __ The source. of the screenshot. was in . the post. i linked. as source. WHy does this comment have 7 upvotes and no downvOTEs? __

    I am not implying dick. edit-They say it right there

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    hem to paraphrase:

    ‘this document is about terrorism’ - ‘specifically anarchists’

    they ‘hate authority’ and ‘do crimes’

    ‘we dont generally care about any of this, but reserve the right to’

    ‘and courts say thats the end of it’

    </paraphrasing>

    I know I dont have the final say on anything. that would be weird.

    but

    This is just an identification guide for symbols.

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      I mean, don’t crop out context if you want people to understand that context? If your solution to getting people to understand your message is for them to do more of the work for you, you’re never gonna get the impact you’re looking for.

      Furthermore, in the original/expanded image, they specifically identify the problematic group as Anarchist Violent Extremists, not just anarchists, meaning it’s not the anarchy part they have a problem with. They also emphasize the point that use of these symbols is not enough to identify a person or organization as a violent extremist and that they’re not even interested in people who just say stuff about anarchy.

      It’s the same as saying “right-wing American terrorist groups often fly the Confederate flag, but the flag alone is not enough to identify a terrorist as some people use the flag to symbolize the American South East.”

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          The other person is seems entirely correct. If you disagree with them on the epistemic level, then you need to seriously reevaluate how you interpret evidence.

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            Let me explain… …I don’t know how to explain that when a law enforcement agency says that it is only interested in investigating your organization for crimes. that is. not something that you should take as reassuring. It outlines a level of trust in the establishments of imperial power that ,. supporters of this line of thought here would be okay with showing cops around the clubhouse, because you’re confident they won’t decide that what you are doing here is a crime. It is an avenue for the state to label its own political opponents as [legal to oppress with state power]s. All of the nonsense in this thread of is providing cover for that and that’s the end of it for me.

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            AND ANOTHER THING

            normal average americans that fly the confederate flag are white supremists. They are supporting domestic terrorism. like that even gets at all what i mean. this whole thing exists to make the ‘inherent racial hierarchy’ that this country was founded on and operated under for its entire dam history up until … … . . . . wHen?EXACtly?? just palatable enough that I get looked at like Im the crazy one for bringing up how the pattern of suppressing communist and anarchist political factions in the united states is the f*CkInG God**MN **kING POInT of thE FBI fUK