Do you not see how easy to manipulate that makes you?
And before libs get their panties in a twist - fuck trump, but seriously, when you’re at the point of “I don’t care what I’m voting for, just not that guy”, you’re not the one with any power, you’re just another puppet whose consent to at best maintain the status quo is easily manufactured by those who actually have the power, and with exactly the same tactics used on the other “team”.
What exactly do you think the alternative is here? Not voting just surrenders what little power the electoral process does give you. Even if electoral politics aren’t a meaningful way to advance your vision of a better country, this is still an opportunity, however small, to reduce the harm that will be done under a Trump presidency. Like, even if you don’t expect Harris to meaningfully improve things (and there are a lot of areas where a former cop probably shouldn’t be expected to), the alternative is someone who continues to actively promise to make those same areas even worse.
Absolutely, and her record in those roles imo actually suggests at least some awareness of the kinds of problems that need to be solved there, though I’m sufficiently cynical about things that I would be surprised to see significant action on federal reforms. I’m cautiously optimistic about her, but my point is that even if you don’t think she’s any different from a rank-and-file Republican that would still make it irresponsible not to vote against Trump and the very specific plans he and the people around him have to make all of those problems even worse.
There is definitely room to push the Overton window farther left and (federal) electoral politics does not give an avenue to do that as long as the Republican party continues to drift further right. But the way to do that does not involve abandoning powerful federal offices like the goddamned presidency to right-wing loons.
No, it’s an accurate description of what kind of politics you have. I was just pointing out exactly who and what you are. You’ll vote for a anti-gay, anti-trans, anti-abortion conservative if it means beating Trump. For you, Trump is pure evil and any lesser evil is acceptable if it means we can stop him.
Do you not see how easy to manipulate that makes you?
And before libs get their panties in a twist - fuck trump, but seriously, when you’re at the point of “I don’t care what I’m voting for, just not that guy”, you’re not the one with any power, you’re just another puppet whose consent to at best maintain the status quo is easily manufactured by those who actually have the power, and with exactly the same tactics used on the other “team”.
What exactly do you think the alternative is here? Not voting just surrenders what little power the electoral process does give you. Even if electoral politics aren’t a meaningful way to advance your vision of a better country, this is still an opportunity, however small, to reduce the harm that will be done under a Trump presidency. Like, even if you don’t expect Harris to meaningfully improve things (and there are a lot of areas where a former cop probably shouldn’t be expected to), the alternative is someone who continues to actively promise to make those same areas even worse.
Characterizing her as just a “former cop” isn’t fair. She was a district attorney, then an attorney general, then a senator, then vice president.
Absolutely, and her record in those roles imo actually suggests at least some awareness of the kinds of problems that need to be solved there, though I’m sufficiently cynical about things that I would be surprised to see significant action on federal reforms. I’m cautiously optimistic about her, but my point is that even if you don’t think she’s any different from a rank-and-file Republican that would still make it irresponsible not to vote against Trump and the very specific plans he and the people around him have to make all of those problems even worse.
There is definitely room to push the Overton window farther left and (federal) electoral politics does not give an avenue to do that as long as the Republican party continues to drift further right. But the way to do that does not involve abandoning powerful federal offices like the goddamned presidency to right-wing loons.
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Obviously they wouldn’t vote for Satan because she’s not real, but if Mitt Romney switched parties they’d happily vote for him.
Tell me I’m wrong.
I don’t like Mitt and voted against him when he ran.
But I’d still vote for him over Trump if those were my only realistic options. I mean, obviously.
Obviously, and that’s the point. You can be forced to vote for anything by the two party system.
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No, it’s an accurate description of what kind of politics you have. I was just pointing out exactly who and what you are. You’ll vote for a anti-gay, anti-trans, anti-abortion conservative if it means beating Trump. For you, Trump is pure evil and any lesser evil is acceptable if it means we can stop him.
Think outside the ballot box, I’m begging you.
Lol what?
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