On an average day in the 905-day wider war, the Russian military loses nearly four tanks and nearly eight infantry vehicles, according to a running tally by the analysts at Oryx. The Ukrainian military loses just one tank and three infantry vehicles on an average day.
Given the sizeable artillery and drone advantage that Russia holds, this statistic sounds like bullshit.
If go to the website mentioned, they explain that their stats are based on videographic evidence and count captured or abandoned equipment as losses.
What I am guessing is going on here is a combination of factors
- Ukraine has less equipment to lose
- Significant amounts of Russian equipment is reported as abandoned when it isn’t (it’s hard to judge whether or not a piece of equipment is abandoned just from photos or videos).
- Some losses are double counted. It’s not as if the equipment has easily identifiable ids. If a tank is mistakenly identified as abandoned, but it is not, then gets destroyed, it is counted as 2 losses.
- Some equipment is identified as Russian despite being Ukrainian. This could be done on purpose for propaganda, but it could also be the result of Ukrainians doing false flag attacks (haven’t heard anything about this though).
The whole open source intelligence thing has been a propaganda vehicle. There’s been a whole joke going around how Oryx stopped reporting numbers once Ukraine ran out of Soviet vehicles and they couldn’t pass NATO ones as being Russian.
Did they actually stop reporting numbers? Because that would be hilarious:)
lol yup, happened right when the Ukrainian offensive started last year and there was overwhelming evidence of NATO equipment burning https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2023/08/putting-down-pen-reflecting-on-oryxs.html
Wait, so the site hasn’t even been active for a year now and is still being referenced as a counter for losses? Or did someone else pick up the project?
Also, I did not expect the project to literally be just some guy with no apparent formal expertise or connections. Nor did I expect him to give a special acknowledgement to Jakob lmao (the yakubian devil jokes write themselves).
lol I haven’t followed up whether they restarted the scam since, but yeah all of this “open intelligence” is basically just NAFO trolls
Do you have reading on that?
abandoned equipment
So… any time a vehicle is left in place for the mobile mechanic convoy to pick up… if a Ukrainian sees it, it counts as a battlefield loss right up until the moment that its picked up by the mechanics pick it up.
according to a running tally by the analysts at Oryx
well, there’s your problem
