I would fucking swim to China if they did that.

You’re the one supporting the Nazis murdering children, you nutjob.

Do you really think the capitalists themselves fully understand their inhumanity or evil or the destructive potential of even a single nuclear bomb? That’s mostly or partially a rhetorical question than a literal one.

Building up nuclear weapons is to safeguard and reduce the chance of this conflict escalating, or at least scaring the imperialists into being slightly more reasonable.

War isn’t a bed of roses, and obviously all of this will be incredibly dangerous and expensive and soul-wrenching.

But the west NEEDS the global south to agonize and belly-ache over the morality of all this, because if we don’t, then we all but won already, given the superiority of socialism’s drive and production over capitalism. Refusing to play their game gets us all killed, and I refuse to have the Global South be victim-blamed, when it’s the imperialist nutjobs forcing us all into this situation.

No one is saying to approach this with no safeguards or extensive processes, but if we aren’t collectively willing to do whatever it takes, we have already lost. Do you really think the bad guys aren’t itching to obliterate all of humanity if they think they have no other option? They have to be beaten down and outmatched before they can strike.

How in the fuck is building up a method of attack and deterrence useless? I’m not trying to be a dick, I’m genuinely asking. When the very existence of human civilization, humanity itself, life on Earth, the biosphere, and practically everything humanity knows and loves is at stake, then fundamentally no price is too high.

I wager that China is large enough (as in population wise, labor-force wise, financially, natural resource-rich, and geopolitically allied with and has arguably the best and largest most skillfully-pat down scientists, technicians, and supply chains on Earth to accomplish this, and is almost definitely better able to than the Soviet Union was) take care of it’s people’s population and economy, build socialism, and produce en masse nuclear weapons.

Obviously this shouldn’t be the main focus, and no plan for socialism, humanity or the future should hinge on a single plan, and preparing for war, especially nuclear conflict, is always a soul-wrenching experience, and no one hopes that it should come down to it, but how you anyone honestly say that this isn’t a worthwhile possibility or a last resort?

The cold calculus of war is a harsh mistress, but avoiding all of this is stupid and wrong. It’s incredibly unfair that China and the global south have to put this much forethought and agonizing and picking our battles, and it’s bullshit and evil how badly the odds are stacked against us, but I feel that if socialist/anti-imperialist states don’t take all of this into account, then we have already lost. We have a responsibility, even if it’s unfair and dangerous and cruel, to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

I wager that it would cost more resources, willpower, money, time, and suffering if more nuclear weapons aren’t built or if we collectively wait until we have no other option, and then it will be too late.

You have a slight point in regards to not exactly going tit for tat against the imperialists and the west, and not losing sight of the bigger picture, but that isn’t an excuse to not do anything, especially when billions of souls and life on Earth are in danger.

You really think the U.S., Britain, France, NATO, and their ilk, aren’t just all itching to obliterate all of humanity if the power of the capitalists is even slightly threatened in the coming years and decades?

I take no relish in saying any of this, I am unfortunately extremely sober, and this shit is fucking scary and inhumane, that we are all put in.

I’m sure you’ve heard the phrase, “the only way to win, is not to play?”

In this case, a better argument is “if the Global South collectively does nothing, then we almost automatically lose, so we have no choice but to play”

Of course the west wants the Global South to agonize over this, because the west are inhumane evil monsters. Having a conscience is extremely difficult, in regards to war. If China or the rest of humanity bellyaches and overly worries about right or wrong about whether or not to build up an arsenal of nuclear weapons, then the west has already one before the conflict has begun. The only way to win is to embrace the danger carefully and intelligently, lest all of our efforts are for nothing.

If I was an advisor or somehow had Xi Jinping’s ear, I would explain all of this. China is already in efforts to massively scale up it’s building/acquisition of nuclear weapons, to get at least several hundred more, which is a good start, but I think that can or should be kicked already into overdrive.

I’m open to discussion and I’m not saying I’m 100 percent right or immovable, and I don’t presume to know more than Xi or the CPC or the Global South.

Do you have reading on that?

You’re an evil creepy bastard.

Projection.

So socialist/anti-imperialist states shouldn’t think ahead then?

They have a point though. The capitalists primarily care about dollar signs and weapons

I think you’re missing the point. Obviously people aren’t NPC’s and need resources, but having a huge arsenal of ready nuclear weapons is way more intimidating for the imperialists than a small group of 10.

Do you have some reading about those 9 key substations?

Bootlicker

No fucking shit, that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t plan for the worst because it makes you feel icky. The cold calculus of war doesn’t care about feelings.

Tell that to the capitalists. No one is pushing for nuclear war. It’s stupid to not consider every single last resort.

I am the least delusional, thank you. Can’t say the same for you.

Of course a psychopath like you thinks that dead children is love

2 days until Zelenskyy sends battalions of 12-year olds.

Even marvel movies are way more logical and reasonable than neoliberals

Nuclear disarmament will need to be forced when the Amerikkkan regime can be beaten down enough

Survival isn’t useless

You do realize that something being propaganda and a news source aren’t mutually exclusive, right?

You neoliberal nutjobs are smug and racist as fuck.

Propaganda is information that tells a story. Propaganda isn’t inherently true nor false, nor is it automatically “good” or “evil.” It’s neutral, a tool. Though not as big of a tool as you are.

By “propaganda”, you scumbags mean that it’s all lies, is what I think you simpletons are trying to say.

Literally anything and everything can be propaganda, so saying that something is information that tells a story is an empty statement.

You have a definite delusion if you think Russia got their asses handed to them. Tens and tens of billions of dollars, and yet the Ukra-Nazis and NATO have lost several hundreds of thousands of soldier’s lives as cannon fodder, compared to 30,000 Russian soldier’s losses, and for every Russian soldier that is killed, Ukraine has 10 dead soldiers.

Your army is so pathetic that even with tens of billions of dollars of equipment and aid and pretty decent military technology, you still use children as human shields while you’re busy raping them at the same time, and you resort to using hospitals and schools as bases of operation (that you cleared out or murdered students or patients) and set up military equipment in civilian areas to draw soldiers there, and DROP WHITE PHOSPHOROUS ON CIVILIANS.

You Ukra-Nazis are so mind-bendingly stupid and evil and corrupt, and to top it off, you accuse anyone with a brain or a heart of being evil or brainwashed for not believing everything they read. You call Russians bootlickers, yet Russians are way less trusting of their own government yet still way more reasonable than you mindless fascist banderites are.

Get fucked.