Harris, despite being part of the Biden administration, was seen by some as being more sympathetic to the pro-Palestinian cause and made a forceful case for a cease-fire deal after meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netantyahu.

“We all came to a consensus that it’s not going to make a difference, that [Harris] represents this administration,” said Hatem Abudayyeh, chair of the U.S. Palestinian Community Network. “We’re going to stay full steam ahead.”

Harris may also face sporadic protests inside the arena where she will make her televised acceptance speech on Thursday. About 30 delegates who represent the “uncommitted” vote in the primary which activists used as a means of protesting Biden’s policies on Israel will attend.

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    The idea of an immanent WW3 is one of the most overblown of right-wing talking points.

    Who would fight on the other side? A China/Russia alliance? When China has achieved significant success through patient diplomatic work and economic reform, and has no strong incentive to take a far riskier path when what they’re already doing is working fine so far? When what China really wants is to eclipse Russia and achieve hegemony over its region, not prop up a regional rival? When they can instead just sit back and war profiteer?

    Xi Jinping is not an illogical, impatient man. He’s so far demonstrated that he is careful, calculating, and he likes keeping his options open. WW3 is not keeping your options open.

    Who else could be a realistic part of it though? Iran wouldn’t be a WW3. India has nothing to gain from going to war.

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      I don’t see Russia leaving its close ally all on its own if they get dragged into war by Israel. The only reason that hasn’t already happened is because Iran isn’t illogical or impatient either, they don’t want this to blow up bigger than it already is. Eventually, though, internal pressure will force a response from Iran and then we’ll see if Israel strikes back.

      If the US and Russia get involved with Israel’s war on Iran, that’s three continents at war. Pretty sure that’s world war.

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        Ah, I see. Iran and Russia have no actual treaty alliance, they’re just cooperating. I actually rather doubt Russia would become involved past some war profiteering of their own, since they have their hands pretty full these days.

        It’s theoretically possible though, I suppose, but if there was conflict it would probably be in Syria where they already have troops deployed, and I expect the Russians would keep it quiet like they did when we bombed them during the Syrian Civil War.

        They don’t actually want to be destroyed in nuclear fireballs anymore than we do. And they definitely don’t want to fight us in conventional warfare when they can barely handle Ukraine.

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          It’ll depend on a lot of factors that we can’t possibly predict, like, will Iraq allow Iran to cross their territory for troop deployment? Maybe. Will Syria become a launching ground for attacks? Maybe. Will Turkey or Egypt become embroiled in the conflict? Maybe. How much will Russia involve itself, and how long will it take for them to become involved? What’s going to happen to oil prices in the meantime, and how is that going to impact the global economy? Who knows!

          It’s all very unpredictable and volatile, Israel needs to be stopped before things start to escalate beyond anyone’s control.

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            I agree that Israel needs to be stopped, but most of those are a pretty comfortable no. People need something to be in it for them. Wars are hugely expensive, not something you just jump casually into.

            Syria being a base for attacks is a probably, though. imo anyway, I’m not in the Pentagon or anything. Oil prices and inflation would probably go up too.