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    They defeated the Nazis by throwing conscripts into a meat grinder regardless of whether they even had a weapon, and by threatening to shoot them if they tried to retreat.

    That’s the nature of Authoritarian regimes. Not very working class of them.

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      They defeated the Nazis by throwing conscripts into a meat grinder regardless of whether they even had a weapon, and by threatening to shoot them if they tried to retreat.

      You are mistaking the movie enemy at the gates for a history lesson, or are absorbing myths that ultimately originate with that movie… During particularly desperate times troops would have to split rifles during training. General order 227 created penal detachments for officers who kept ordering retreats without cause, and created blocking units to turn back retreating units. They weren’t machine gunning conscripts in the back.

      Also even if not one step back was as US propaganda claims, every step back allowed the nazis more population to exterminate or enslave. The Soviets lost 19 million civilians, exterminated by the nazis.

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        I’m sure we’ve seen the towering number of deaths from the USSR meatgrinders

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwKPFT-RioU

        We still see the same “throw soldiers at it” mentality in the war in Ukraine today, Russia is just like that. Nothing particularly to do with Socialism, more Authoritarianism.

        Likewise we see poorly equipped troops in Russian forces today too. Same thing different era. It’s just the mentality there.