• Inucune@lemmy.world
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    People getting wise to the military. Many would defend their country, but don’t want to die for an oil company to make an extra thousand. Guessing which is more likely is left as an exercise for the reader.

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        “… til then I’m good at home.” Funny, that’s most likely where you’ll have to kill some Nazis next.

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          I mean listen if the army wants to help my anti fascist organizing I’ll take a missile launcher to stand against the proud boys. They really won’t be ready for me to bring a tank to pride

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        And the good thing is you’ll have plenty of warning because your government is unlikely to join the war against the nazis for a good couple of years into the war against the nazis.

        I jest…but kinda not really given current US foreign policy (or that of the past 100yrs tbh)

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            Some portions of the ASVAB have questions very similar to those you might find on an IQ test, but it is much more broad than just IQ.

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          My parents didn’t let me or my sister to go to school on the ASVAB test day. They didn’t want recruiters contacting them constanty.

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            That’s probably for the best.

            I spent 4 years in the USMC and have a very complicated relationship with my time enlisted. There is a lot I’m proud of, but there’s also a lot that would be nice to forget.

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          The ASVAB tests for aptitude, hence the name, not the ability to step into a job without training. Looks up practice questions for the Mechanical Comprehension portion to see the kinds of questions that might suggest someone could be a good mechanic.

          The U.S. army absolutely does provide training to its mechanics, and does not assume people know jack shit coming in. I scored high enough on the MM portion of the ASVAB to be one and don’t don’t know a damn thing about fixing vehicles.

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      Idk man, friend of mine works as a mechanic for the airforce and makes ~78k/yr, gets a large housing bonus, and has access to military loans that have really good terms, comparatively.

      Ignoring the whole military lifestyle bs that he has to go through, it’s not that bad for someone who really doesn’t know what to do with themselves.

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        The US army uses basic socialist policies (we will help you if you’re dying from cancer etc) to recruit. It only works because the US state refuses to take care of its subjects. The moment people are no longer desperate, the recruitment numbers will fall.

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          Except if you get cancer while in they medically discharge you and leave you with nothing. “Go file with the VA!”

          I was in for ten years and saw it happen multiple times.

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            I heard people got respiratory cancers specifically from being in the military and having been instructed to burn piles of trash without proper safety equipment.

            And then they got discharged, fucked over sideways by the VA, and died. Welp.

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      How so? Is it a flat out lie, or are there costs associated with BCT?

      Very funny either way, as I was thinking about signing on as a last ditch effort to set myself up a few years ago, but I ended up getting forklift certification and a CDL, and have been doing just fine since.

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        I know that when I joined up in 1997 a lot of those bonuses simply disappeared if you didn’t keep ahold of your original paperwork. Sometimes they had a lot of hidden clauses, so you could lose the bonus for a minor infraction. Or, the bonus was really part of your pay and the full amount would be paid out after if you actually completed 8 years instead of the 2-4 year commitment you started on.

        All I know is I personally ended up permanently disabled at 18 and fought with the VA until 2019 to get my disability compensation. Which they only paid me back pay from 2009 instead of from the date of disability in 1997.

        Getting money from the government takes a long time. The people downwind of the Atomic test sites have been fighting 50+ years for the full payments from being irradiated during the 50’s.

        But hey, joining the military is a good job if you aren’t stupid and taking a combat MOS when you could have a steady non-combat job with perks. Right now the Commissary benefits for cheap food is worth it with how food prices have been going.

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    Be on site military contractor

    Told I’ll be making infinitemoney.jpg

    Actually make slightlymorethangs.jpg but with no pension

    Tfw ptsd from analyzing combat footage

    Tfw actively and daily shunned as “not one of us, just a dirty filthy contractor”

    Tfw you can’t get another engineering job because your entire portfolio is classified

    Tfw when there is no mental health support or support groups available for aforementioned “just a dirty filthy contractor” reasons

    Decide to go back to college instead of killing self

    Check brand new school email

    “Hi, my name is Sgt Fuckface! Here at the national guard we’re looking for promising young graduates like you”

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      The way you get around it is discussing what is possible in person. You write a few bullets about your skills but not tied to the contracting. Don’t be specific, it’s not needed.

      I don’t even put my military stuff on resumes anymore.

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      Tfw you can’t get another engineering job because your entire portfolio is classified

      I once got a “redacted” resume from someone who used to work in defense. Basically they just had a bunch of line items like

      • Developed back-end for ████████████████████ in Spring microservices, which is deployed in ██████████████████ used by ██████████ operations daily

      It got the point across about their skills and honestly they got an interview from it

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        I used to work for a company that contracted out programmers to a defense contractor (Northrup Grumman). It honestly never even occurred to me to redact out the stuff I worked on when I put it in my resume. Nobody said anything about that when I left the company, even though I’d gotten a security clearance to work at NG in the first place. I wonder if your “redacted” person just did it themselves to create a sense of mystery.

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    I mean it’s obviously total bullshit as is, but the fucking link at the bottom really seals the deal… I’m totally convinced now…

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    > be in military
    > get inconsolable trauma and my legs blown off for oil company
    > end up homeless anyways and die of a drug overdose

    God, I love this country. USA! USA!

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    hey man… recruiting’s fucking hard. it’s harder than ever for them to make their numbers. I feel bad for 'em because it’s fucking hopeless. but also, fuck recruiters lol, because when they stop giving fucks, you end up with someone really neet on your squad

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      I hate recruiters because they encourage naive teenagers to become professional killers at an age and level of experience where they cannot understand what that means.

      Half the point of basic training is to break or subvert the part of the brain that questions authority and objects to doing violence. Psychologically, humans are not designed for killing other humans. Taking a life is difficult for a good fucking reason, and bypassing that instinct is dangerous.