• atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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    26 days ago

    Oracle is a law firm with a large IT department.

    They’ve been giving us shit because they “see downloads from our IP addresses”. It’s an absolute shake-down operation. They let anybody download their poisoned jvm for free and then tell your company that they now owe them a fortune.

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        25 days ago

        We’d love to but we do have some legitimate needs for it since Oracle software requires their jvm. It’s a massive pain in the ass.

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            25 days ago

            You didn’t seem to understand. Oracle only supports their own jvm when running their software that uses Java (e.g. weblogic).

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              I know it may not be an easy question to answer, but does your company really owe them money? I’m guessing that their other software that uses their JVM also has a license, so they should be more clear about the company having to license out the JVM in order to use it. This sounds like a scam that comes packaged along with some other software.

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                24 days ago

                Oh - sorry, Oracle offers a free “entitlement” to use the JVM when used with their software if it’s required. We don’t pay extra for the Oracle JVM.

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    25 days ago

    Lol brb gonna share this with the CFO and watch them go into a panic. Going to bet they’ll freak out and by the end of 2024, no more Java for us.

    This is the golden ticket I’ve been waiting for.

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        25 days ago

        Obviously OpenJDK is superior to dealing with Oracle’s bull. But even more superior (IMO) is simply not using Java. My life has been noticeably more pleasant since I started refusing to touch Java.

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            25 days ago

            Java has a lot of advantages, but that’s a crazy statement. I feel like literally everyone complains about basic stuff like public static void main, over reliance on factories and OOP, and just how much code you need to generate for some basic stuff. I’m not a Java hater, but I am glad I don’t have to use it anymore.

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              25 days ago

              What’s the issue with public static main?

              And whats the issue with factories? Factories are a design pattern thats not specific to Java, I’d recommend you read the design patterns book and understand why they exist. I also have 0 factory useage stuck in my mind and I have been developing with java since 2016.

              OOP? It’s an OO language ffs, that’s like complaining that C isn’t OO. If you don’t want to use an OO language don’t use one.

              how much code you need to generate for some basic stuff

              Do you mean verbosity because thats only a complaint for people who dont need to maintain stuff long term. Or maybe you misused java for doing something simple where python would have sufficed.

              And then there is the springboot framework that makes shit trivial