• Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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    3 months ago

    you didn’t watch the video, did you?

    How are global pandemics way down? hou often did global pandemics occur in the past?

    Ok, you got me. WWII was afwul. I would also consider it a historical outlier.

    And you’re gonna ignore climate change completely, huh?

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      2 months ago

      Clearly, climate change is on the rise. It is absolutely a fair price to pay for all the advancement. For almost all of history, we were dying under 30 years, we are close to triple that thanks to technology and all signs point to lifespan increasing. For pandemics, even if we outrageously compare just the number of deaths, not even percentages as we should, many pandemics of the distant past were way way worse than the only one almost all of us have seen in our lifetimes.

      https://www.visualcapitalist.com/history-of-pandemics-deadliest/

      I know you have it in your head that technology is evil or whatever, but that falls flat when you look up the numbers you are so afraid of. You are like a teenager complaining about how awful their parents are when literally everything you love and enjoy has come directly from them. I would not be surprised in the least if you are a literal teenager with how little you have heard about history.

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        For almost all of history, we were dying under 30 years, we are close to triple that thanks to technology and all signs point to lifespan increasing.

        You accuse me of knowing “alarmingly little” about history and hit me with that bullshit statistic of “dying under 30”? Get outta here. Also: I already explained that I completely condone the medical advancements.

        I get a feeling that you’re constantly strawmanning me, by acting as if I’m like “everything used to be better all the time”. I’m not saying that some parts of life have gotten better. But I’m harshly objecting to the notion that technological progress has been a positive good to all of humanity. What I said was that technology usually helps the powerful to become even more powerful. I’m guessrng that you live in the imperial core (look it up) and therefore partly benefited from this concentration of power. This won’t stay that way, if you’re not rich. And a look at the state of common people in 19th century Europe (during the industrial revolution) backs me up on that one.

        It’s simply naive to claim that “everything has gotten better”, while ignoring everything that has gotten worse.

        It is absolutely a fair price to pay for all the advancement

        For pandemics, even if we outrageously compare just the number of deaths, not even percentages as we should, many pandemics of the distant past were way way worse than the only one almost all of us have seen in our lifetimes.

        Global pandemics weren’t a thing in the past. And the one we encountered could have been avoided, if it wouldn’t have been for the profit motive.

        Don’t you think that some cooky infographic from 2020 might be a **teeny bity* out of date?

        I know you have it in your head that technology is evil or whatever

        You’re talking about your strawman. I prefer a more nuanced take.

        but that falls flat when you look up the numbers you are so afraid of.

        Measure your tone. You come off as a dick. You’ve yet to supply data that’s not ridiculous. Watch the video.

        Well, if you allow me some wild accusation: if I’m a teenager, then you’re like a child arguing that Santa must exist on account of all the presents appearing on Christmas. And all the Stories of sweatshops for your christmas sneakers are lies, because obviously, the elves were making these.

        I would not be surprised in the least if you are a literal teenager with how little you have heard about history.

        Says the person who refuse to educate themselves to, learn things that question their held believs a tiny bit. I’ve literally proposed you history books to read.