• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Its irrelevant. This is a campaign and Harris is losing it.

    If you want to stop Trump, you need to advocate that Harris does better.

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      I’m sorry, but no, I’m going to blame the people who vote against Harris, giving the election to Trump, and leading to every Palestinian in the Middle East being killed. The anti-Harris crowd is anti-Palestinian lives, and no amount of bullshit will make that untrue.

      People will push to vote Stein because they want Trump to win, because they want more Palestinians to die.

      No, I don’t like her position on Gaza. But I know that Trump doesn’t give a single fuck about any of their lives, and Harris needs to at least toe a line.

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        I’m sorry, but no, I’m going to blame the people who vote against Harris, giving the election to Trump, and leading to every Palestinian in the Middle East being killed. The anti-Harris crowd is anti-Palestinian lives, and no amount of bullshit will make that untrue.

        Yeah see thats what people in a cult do.

        And about Stein…

        https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3913&stream=top

        She’s literally polling at less than measurable numbers. The only election real estate she is occupying is in your mind. Your opponent if you want to beat Trump isn’t Stein, is Harris. Her positions are what are holding her back right now.

        You want Harris to win? Advocate that she adopt a stronger position on Israel. And blaming the greens is just laughable. Literally Chase Oliver is pulling in more net votes than Stein.

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          There are two possible outcomes for the election - a Trump win, or a Harris win. Pissing away your vote on Stein empowers Trump, who will be worse in just about every way you could imagine - including Palestine.

          Don’t let your childish refusal to suck it up and vote for a deeply flawed Democrat campaign contribute to the death of who knows how many, both internationally and domestically, the destruction of US democracy, and the gutting of the economy. Vote like a fucking adult - please.

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            1 month ago

            Why don’t you ask her? She’s easy to get a hold of. Hell, for the price of a super chat, I was able to ask her a question directly on a YT show. She’s very accessible. You want an answer to that question? Send her an email from @SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world

            And as far as I can remember, she didn’t even want to run in 2024? I think she tried to get Cornell West to run.

            Right now the libertarians are pulling in way more votes in the latest rust belt Quinipiac. Should they not be running? Also, that latest quinipiac doesn’t show Harris’s numbers improving without Stein; it show Trumps numbers going up. If we squint, it looks like Stein is actually pulling more Trump voters (but to be honest, the numbers are microscopically small, its stupid to even be discussing the greens).

            You know what block of voters are actually in the polling data that are movable?

            Undecided votes. You know, that campaign that was asking themselves to stop doing a genocide?

            Only Harris can win this election; only Harris can lose it. You want Harris to win? Advocate she adopt more popular policies.

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                You can’t have expected an actual answer when you asked him to read the mind of a crazy grifter lady did you? I read that as an obvious rhetorical question and now I’m somewhat confused.

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                1 month ago

                Cus I’m not Jill stein and I dont speak for her. Your entire line of questioning is you projecting things you wish some one was saying onto them.

                Anyways, since you couldnt be bothered, I just submitted this:

                Maybe she’ll show up. In the mean time, how do you address the fact that there are orders of magnitude more “Undecided” voters than Greens in this latest quinipiac?

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                    1 month ago

                    And what answer could I possibly give to you which would satisfy?

                    You aren’t here to have a conversation. You dont ask these questions in good faith. You are here to be a bully and try to bully people into not questioning your team. Were you abused, where the people who “loved” you also bullied you into believing the same thing they did? So you feel like you have to bully people into believing the things you do?

                    This is the same toxic shit that Blue MAGA was doing that literally was losing Biden the election. If you actually gave a fuck about beating Trump, you’d be trying to find a way to make Harris a more palatable candidate to people who can’t stomach a genocide. But you don’t actually care about winning. You just want to be abusive.