L’annĂ©e derniĂšre le sujet a Ă©tĂ© abordĂ©s par @AlexisFR@jlai.lu et je souhaite relancĂ© l’idĂ©e de dĂ©-fĂ©dĂ©rer de cette instance.

Je navigue depuis quelque temps sans bloquer la moindre instances question de simuler un peu l’expĂ©rience de quelqu’un qui rejoint le fediverse via l’instance jlai.lu.

Les posts qui apparaissent dans le fil et le comportement de la plupart des usagers de cette instance pollue tout simplement l’expĂ©rience Lemmy.

MĂȘme sans parler de possible liens avec CCP, Kremlin etc
 je pense que, Ă  mon humble avis, leur comportement et leur façons de brigader et de diffamer une opinion qui ne diverge que d’à peine d’un poil de leur courant de penser, va sincĂšrement Ă  l’encontre de l’état d’esprit de notre communautĂ© sur cette instance.

Je me suis opposĂ© sans vraiment me prononcer l’annĂ©e derniĂšre Ă  une dĂ©-fĂ©dĂ©ration (Ă©tant donnĂ© qu’ils ne sont pas francophone et que j’aime bien le drama inter-instances de temps temps) mais leurs prises de positions en permanence ahurissantes et (en pesant mes mots au maximum) d’une flagrante dissonance cognitive je dois dire que trop c’est trop.

Je pense sincĂšrement que malgrĂ© le fait nos intĂ©ractions soit assez minimes avec cette instance je pense que sur le long terme leur influence est nocive et que, dans l’idĂ©e de garder une certaines sĂ©rĂ©nitĂ© pour les personnes et futures personnes qui utiliseront cette instance, qu’il y ai une dĂ©-fĂ©dĂ©ration de cette instance de la notre.

  • eldavi@lemmy.ml
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    7 days ago

    You probably wouldn’t want to be federated with 4chan if it was a Lemmy instance, would you? I know I wouldn’t want to habe anything to do with those assholes.

    neither would i and again; i’m not asking anyone to make that choice for me. i’m an adult human being who can make choices for myself and you deciding what’s best for others you don’t know and will never meet makes you no better that spez from reddit.

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      7 days ago

      I’m confused. I thought bothsidism was pretty unpopular in leftist circles? I thought it was fine to deplatform toxic assholes, to make your spaces safer?

      Heck, these guys brag about how they keep their platform safe by deplatforming transphobic and other hateful bigots?

      How hypocritical!

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        7 days ago

        bothsidisms is a bad faith argument meant to shut down meaningful discourse and very popular with liberals; but not leftists.

        hexbear is literally one of the most aggressively trans friendly instances on the entire fediverse so your example in this thread about banning hexbear makes it extra farcical.

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          “It’s for liberals” because you don’t like it when it’s applied to you. That does not mean it can’t apply to you. What you’re proposing is literally double standards.

          I know it’s trans-friendly by being exclusive of bigots, that’s the point I was making. What is farcical is your consternation that the same arguments you guys use could be used against your own toxicity.

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              7 days ago

              I misread you, I thought you meant leftists cannot be accused of using bothsidist arguments, which is not what you said. That’s why I deleted my original answer.

              Still, there’s double standards because you think only you can deplatform toxic assholes.

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                leftists are spectrum that includes liberals; there is no one rule for them all.

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                7 days ago

                expand your experience: try using bothsidisms in leftists instances; not the diet reddit instances like .word and .shitjustworks; and you see for yourself.