• umbrella@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    when racism, imperialism and nationalism have been a main part of a given country’s identity for decades, yea thats fascism, and its precisely my point here!

    don’t forget US segregation laws inspired the nazi treatment of the jews, and you havent changed much in that aspect since then, honestly. i don’t even need to say anything about nationalism, even americans can see it clear as the day. these things don’t lead to fascism, they are the alarm bells.

    fascism is rising outside the west because of how tight of a grip you have on us and how you meddle with our electoral system (eg. imposing dictatorships on us). milei is widely and openly supported by western institutions. brazil has seen a lot of meddling for bolsonaro to succeed, also somewhat in the open. i could go on about this one.

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      23 days ago

      What is it with Europeans and making up lies about America to make themselves feel superior?

      Don’t forget US segregation laws inspired the Nazi treatment of thr Jews, and you haven’t changed much since then.

      It’s been 85 years since WWII. I like to think we’ve made at least some social progress in that time. We’ve stopped segregating, for a start. Affirmative action is the latest thing U.S. conservatives are up in arms about which means we must be doing something right. And say what you will about slavery in America but we did not murder them en masse.

      I don’t need to say anything about nationalism. Even Americans see it clear as day.

      I beg to differ. Sure, there’s a certain demographic that loves their guns and their trucks and their flags and their homophobia, but they’re far from the majority. Most Americans I’ve met actively despise them. I’d also question whether nationalists (“my country is the best so your country should become part of mine”) as opposed to patriots (“I love my country and want to work to make it better by copying ideas from yours”) have been present in any meaningful capacity before the Cold War. I’m also not at all sure it was present in any meaningful capacity between the end of the Cold War and 2015.