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  • Melkath@kbin.earth
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    5 months ago

    Oh get over yourself.

    He paused one shipment, then a week later sent a shipment twice as big.

    Such mental gymnastics to say when Trump does it it’s actual fascism bit when Biden does it it’s like not even really fascism, man, and… BuT tRuMp!!!@!@

    We have 2 far right fascist parties in America. That simple.

    • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
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      5 months ago

      week later sent a shipment twice as big.

      Citation? I am genuinely asking; I looked around for information about what happened after the “pause”, or what weapons it did and didn’t apply to, and I couldn’t find anything.

      The rest of your message is a such a cartoonish misrepresentation of what I am actually saying that I think it would be pointless to engage with. @archomrade@lemmy.world - see, it is frustrating when someone assigns you an imaginary viewpoint and starts arguing super aggressively against this thing that isn’t what you are actually saying, isn’t it? 🥲

    • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.socialOP
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      5 months ago

      We have 2 far right fascist parties in America. That simple.

      Disagree. Trump represents real fascism in the US, but US international policy under both parties has repeatedly supported fascism and authoritarianism abroad.

      Democrats have enjoyed the aesthetics of egalitarianism domestically while contributing to the problem of authoritarianism abroad in service of their global ambitions, and that is the contradiction i’m pointing to.

      Both sides are not the same, but they share important similarities that should absolutely be opposed.

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        5 months ago

        I’m sorry. I read what you are saying, and cannot fathom how your brain survives those gymnastics without disintegrating.

        “both parties has repeatedly supported fascism and authoritarianism”

        Literally in your first sentence of your response, which is saying you disagree with “We have 2 far right fascist parties in America. That simple.”

        Cant make this shit up.

        • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.socialOP
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          5 months ago

          Acknowledging there is a distinction to be made between the parties is important if you want to be taken seriously.

          There’s a distinction to be made between convenient support of fascism abroad as a matter of suiting your interests and leveling that fascism against your own people. I don’t shy away from that distinction, and it doesn’t negate the critique being leveled against democrats that pardon themselves for that fascistic activity simply because they have a more pleasant appearance domestically.

          • Melkath@kbin.earth
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            5 months ago

            No.

            Fascism is fascism.

            Fascism isn’t a tool to be used when convenient for you. Fascism is bad.

            If you participate in fascism, you are a fascist.

            • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.socialOP
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              5 months ago

              There’s the fascism you conduct and there’s the fascism you support.

              Fascism isn’t a tool to be used when convenient for you. Fascism is bad.

              Well yea, I agree. Maybe we need like a rating system of fascism? Or maybe subtypes? Maybe Trump is fascism full-fat and democrats are fascism-lite? Even hell has 7 circles.

              If you tell a Democrat they’re the same as Hitler I’m gonna guess they aren’t gonna take the point seriously. Just a guess.

      • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
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        5 months ago

        Disagree. Trump represents real fascism in the US, but US international policy under both parties has repeatedly supported fascism and authoritarianism abroad.

        Democrats have enjoyed the aesthetics of egalitarianism domestically while contributing to the problem of authoritarianism abroad in service of their global ambitions, and that is the contradiction i’m pointing to.

        Both sides are not the same, but they share important similarities that should absolutely be opposed.

        See I agree with pretty much 100% of this, with Israel as exhibits 1, 2, and 3 at least and probably more