• M0oP0o@mander.xyz
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      5 hours ago

      Sigh… It was the second highest voter turn out since 1932 ( when they started really counting). As of right now (total votes are still being counted, and will not finialze for weeks) it is second to 2020 by less then 15 million people.

      Once again. This was the second highest voter turnout, people did show up but not for Harris.

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        5 hours ago

        And again, non voters and Magas killed democracy. Whats your point? If democracy is not on the line not voting can be acceptable. This time it outed all non voters as fascist enablers.

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          5 hours ago

          OK, stick with me here. You are talking about a two party system, and one side is bad, right? You are telling us that everyone “must” vote for the other party and nothing else. And this is to save “democracy”?

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            5 hours ago

            Please do yourself a favour and learn reading comprehension. One side is fascist. It doesnt matter what the other side is. You can do your games of “oh you arent perfect so I wont vote” when democracy is not on the line. Because now because of you you wont have another election to influence a party to get better.

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              4 hours ago

              Please read what I am inferring, I am not saying people should have voted for anyone else then Harris. My point is you don’t get to use the word “democracy” when you don’t have more then one choice for voters, that is authoritarianism. When one side is fascist but the other side moves towards them, you needed to (as your founding fathers warned you about) have more then two parties. This was a referendum on the Democratic party, and they failed. Hard. Blaming people was always going to happen, I know that, but maybe learning to not blame the very people you needed to not fall to fascism would be a good start.

              I will have another election, one with more then two parties since I am not living in the pit you call the USA.

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                4 hours ago

                You are saying one side is “bad” severely downplaying the danger.

                I dont have founding fathers. No idea wtf you are on about.

                This was a vote between fascism or the continuous existence of democracy. A flawed democracy, sure. One that needs to be reworked. But still better than full on fascism.

                I am glad that you, as well as I, will have another election. Americans wont. Because of maga voters and non voters.

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                  4 hours ago

                  This was a vote between fascism or the continuous existence of democracy. A flawed democracy, sure. One that needs to be reworked. But still better than full on fascism.

                  My point, once again, is that this is inevitable with any two party system. At the point it comes down to the choice between:

                  1. The ruling party
                  2. Literal Fascists

                  You no longer have a democracy, flawed or otherwise. You have authoritarianism.

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                    4 hours ago

                    Our democracy is still relatively strong even if the fascists get stronger. But america has no more democracy after this election. Correct.

                    If the non voters would have picked democracy there would have been a chance to get back to a real vote next time. Still only 2 parties which sucks but at least away from fascism. Now there wont be another election due to non voters.