Maybe Israel/US can’t beat Iran.
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LMAO, “Russia now beat them in peer warfare”. How long has Russia been trying to fight and losing against a small country with basically no military budget?
This article is WHACK. Even if it was true-ish it misses love key point. The US Military industrial complex is MASSIVE. In a real conflict, it can easily pivot to more effective technologies, especially if they’re cheap and Iran has “basically open sourced them”.
I’m no US fanboy, but to call the US Military weaker than Russia after what we’ve seen of colonialist behaviour on both sides in the last 25 years, you’d have to be completely off your gourd.
How long has Russia been trying to fight and losing against a small country with basically no military budget?
There is a war of attrition in which Russia is winning by most important measure of gaining vs losing territory. It has equipment superiority over Western backed Ukraine. Production capacity that is higher than the west.
The US Military industrial complex is MASSIVE. In a real conflict, it can easily pivot to more effective technologies
While massive, it is extremely wasteful, and the technology shifts it has committed to are expensive and underperforming. F35s have low reliability/flight time. Littoral ships scrapped 5 years after comissioning, refueling ships in long dry dock time. Boeing troubles is a hallmark of a US defense system that only cares about spending money instead of results/quality/value, with CEOs simply good at bribes and promises instead of caring about execution.
Ukraine is literally getting old tech that allows the west justification to pay for new tech.
Russia isn’t even fighting new shit and they’re digging through museums for equipment lol
LMFAO. Russia? Superior military manufacturing capability than the West??? God that’s funniest thing I’ve read in a month. China? Absolutely true that by some measures has superior military manufacturing capability than the US, or the EU. Russia is a joke, please keep this completely detached from reality content to hexbear or whatever tankie community your main account is in.
https://lemmy.ca/post/32720516?scrollToComments=true
That comes from Ukraine. Another UK source has the difference as 3x. Russia military production was up 40% in 2023 and 2024
This article focuses on Iran and a missile vs plane war.
Your dismissiveness seems like copium, though I understand a basis to challenge some of article’s conclusions.
Weird. You’re saying a country actively in a war is making more bullets than a country that isn’t at war at all? Wow, next you’ll tell me people eating food chew 3x as much as people not eating food.
Production rate != Manufacturing capacity. Just look at Russia’s production rate now vs before the war.
Damn it’s unbelievable how dumb you tankies are. You think you can just say stuff without thinking for even a fraction of a second about it first.
You can theoretically shoot down any missile, but you can’t shoot down every missile. But America never faced that situation so never thought about it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_national_missile_defense
One path to avoid MAD is through a limited strike on US. Missile defense systems theoretically protect from such strikes, though perhaps not from coastal sub strikes. A single nuclear strike on US collapses the country. With multiple theater wars/enemies, port detonations have no certain accountability for the strike.
Hahahahah no a single strike would not collapse the country genuinely do not understand how anyone is that silly to think that. Absolutely laughable.
You think everyone lives in one city? You’d cripple Moscow or Tokyo with one strike and really fuck up their country but places like China and America have too many population hubs one strike would not cripple them at all especially when you calculate the American military bases globally positioned for exactly what your peabrain thinks.
Lmfaooooo
Hahahahah no a single strike would not collapse the country genuinely do not understand how anyone is that silly to think that.
The US is a bank masquerading as a country. A single strike does collapse the US for its already high debt levels. There is no resilience to needing massive additional reconstruction/spending projects.
Every country is a bank? You’re vision of how all this works is entirely screwed.
Absolutely goofy. You think a nuke hits and suddenly the next day the dollar is worthless? Absolute moron
Russia did not collapse under sanctions because it has actual industry. energy and metals to feed manufacturing. US does not have the luxury of banking bankruptcies or debt credibility strains.
Neither does Russia. This was supposed to be a weekend operation what like 600 something days ago at this point or something? Their country is suffering for it
You seem to think countries and shit die in a day it’s very immature and outright idiotic honestly. Just fully completely poorly thought through.
Russia can barely handle an opponent supposedly far below their capabilities yet they’re fighting on completely equal footing. Saying in any capacity Russia is pulling anything off is a joke. Russia is in a wrestling match with an animal a quarter of their size and are STRUGGLING. There is no success in that. If I’m barely able to fight off a salmon and I’m left with life threatening injuries, in no capacity did I win that let alone succeed.
Dunno what the fuck you even think you’re talking about. Everything you’re tooting Russia’s horn for is because they’re struggling lmfao
Lol what did I just read
It’s cope. It means nothing. Speculating on the effectiveness of warfighting technology before a peer engagement is just flag-waving. A stealthed craft deploying guided munitions at half a mile is a lot less likely to be countered when compared to a medium-range ballistic missile from 30mi out, for example, despite the risk of a manned craft behind enemy territory. On a cost analysis, we can’t speculate on profitability until we know just how many of those munitions will be screened during an engagement. You fire 100 $5k rockets vs. 2 $250k cruise missile, the benefit only comes from the amount of bang that reaches the target.
Id call it a cope with a few grains of truth.
Short of a US/EU/Russia/China war, there is no real peer-peer conflict; Ukraine and even Israel are proxy wars. However, holding the capability to win a peer-peer conflict is expensive and requires significant weapons platforms - warships, aircraft - and logistic chains. These however are expensive overkill in the majority of conflict. A US carrier group would be able to dislodge a piracy operation using missiles that are orders of magnitude more expensive than their targets, with a fleet whos individual vessels have more manpower and fuel use that the whole fleet they destroy. Combine this with falling defense spending as priorities shift, and you start to understand the issues.
Don’t quote me on this, I think a single Iron dome rocket costs as much as a teachers average yearly salary, and Israel would frequently have to fire hundreds to block an attack. An Arlegh Burke (spelling) destroyer costs as much as a brand new school and its maintenance for the first 5 years, and I’m pretty sure the US has hundreds.
It’s hard for me to know what parts are true/matter. I’m not super familiar with any military tactics/strategy, so it seemed like an interesting read. However, the moment they consider anything going on in Ukraine as a win for Russia takes me out of the narrative. I couldn’t tell you what way that conflict is going, but there is no way Russia wanted a prolonged engagement - no matter how you look at it Russia will not “win” that war.
If support stays for Ukraine they have it. Russia has shown its ineffective armed forces and while it can continue to be a significant opposition their economy can’t hold.
a single Iron dome rocket costs as much as a teachers average yearly salary
$40k-$50k. That is US funded Israeli teacher salary. Not a US one, right?
