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    6 months ago

    I’m referring to radical islam, that’s why I used the term radical Islam. Normal muslims don’t attack people for not being muslim, only radicals.

    80 murders over 3 years is close to what lightning killed over the same period. It’s not a huge threat and the effort to fix the problem to stop white supremacy could be used in other areas to much higher effect.

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        6 months ago

        If you’re just focusing on recent deaths, you’re missing the bigger picture.

        The bigger picture would be the trend, historically deaths by white supremacists are significantly higher. They’ve now moved into the very rare category, there is 0.125% chance that if you’re murdered it’s by a white supremacists.

        So yes, white supremacy or any kind of racist thoughts actions and behaviors I would argue are WAYYYYYY more detrimental.

        The statistics support white supremacy being being more of a threat than radical Islam in the last 10 years. Doubling, tripling, or quadrupling a really small number is still a really small number.

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            6 months ago

            You’re confusing racism being bad with white supremacy being prevalent. The stats don’t show white supremacy being prevalent.

            Bee stings kill more people than white supremacy but you’re worried about WASPs instead of wasps.

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                6 months ago

                No you just claimed I needed to provide a good guy white supremacists but wouldn’t explain why until I asked 3 times. Even then it required a misinterpretation of my original point.

                You still haven’t explained how something that is extremely rare is a threat to society. Your only attempt at doing so was to say white supremacy was a threat in the past, which it was, but that’s because white supremacy was prevalent in the past.

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                    in order for the original comparison between white supremacists and “radical” Muslims (which you have still not defined) to be worth making at all, you need to show the difference between a Muslim and a white supremacist.

                    Why do I need show a difference?

                    so we should also expect the same from at least some white supremacists you want to make the argument that they’re not as bad. So can you name a single white supremacist who is not a racist?

                    Why does there need to be a good white supremists for their actions to pose a serious threat to society? They can be bad but still do little to no harm to the population as a whole.

                    white supremacy (and racism) is still prevalent. Just because it doesn’t hit your murder threshold for concern doesn’t mean it hasn’t literally shaped out society’s history and continues to do so.

                    The murder statistic, which you provided, is merely a quantifiable metric to show how rare white supremacy is. Since you have yet to provide any statistic to show white supremacy is common it’s safe to assume white supremacy is uncommon.

                    doesn’t mean it hasn’t literally shaped out society’s history

                    How does the saying go past results are not an indication of future performence.

                    These are the same problems with your argument through this whole thread you’ve yet to provide any evidence to back your claims.