Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful youā€™ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post ā€” thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

Last weekā€™s thread

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)

  • Architeuthis@awful.systemsEnglish
    16Ā·
    4 days ago

    If we came across very mentally disabled people or extremely early babies (perhaps in a world where we could extract fetuses from the womb after just a few weeks) that could feel pain but only had cognition as complex as shrimp, it would be bad if they were burned with a hot iron, so that they cried out. Itā€™s not just because theyā€™d be smart later, as their hurting would still be bad if the babies were terminally ill so that they wouldnā€™t be smart later, or, in the case of the cognitively enfeebled whoā€™d be permanently mentally stunted.

    wat

      • Architeuthis@awful.systemsEnglish
        4Ā·
        2 days ago

        No, just replace all your sense of morality with utilitarian shrimp algebra. If you end up vegetarian, so be it.

      • Architeuthis@awful.systemsEnglish
        11Ā·
        3 days ago

        I think the author is just honestly trying to equivocate freezing shrimps with torturing weirdly specifically disabled babies and senile adults medieval style. If you said youā€™d pledge like 17$ to shrimp welfare for every terminated pregnancy Iā€™m sure theyā€™d be perfectly fine with it.

        I happened upon a thread in the EA forums started by someone who was trying to argue EAs into taking a more forced-birth position and what it came down to was that it wouldnā€™t be as efficient as using the same resources to advocate for animal welfare, due to some perceived human/chicken embryo exchange rate.

    • BlueMonday1984@awful.systemsOPEnglish
      14Ā·
      4 days ago

      If we came across very mentally disabled people or extremely early babies (perhaps in a world where we could extract fetuses from the womb after just a few weeks) that could feel pain but only had cognition as complex as shrimp, it would be bad if they were burned with a hot iron, so that they cried out. Itā€™s not just because theyā€™d be smart later, as their hurting would still be bad if the babies were terminally ill so that they wouldnā€™t be smart later, or, in the case of the cognitively enfeebled whoā€™d be permanently mentally stunted.

      wat

      This entire fucking shrimp paragraph is what failing philosophy does to a mf