• HumanPenguin@feddit.uk
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      19 hours ago

      Given how old, the crown jewels are. IE when that Money was spent.

      How much difference do you think selling them or even never having purchased them would make.

      Selling them. Divided between 66m people. Pennies,

      Never having purchased them. Remember money doesn’t disappear. The people making them were paid. Hired others and spread the money through society.

      Land purchases are less of an asset to society. But spending on building palaces has always resulted in money going to the rest of society and improving the lives of the rest of the nation. Not somehow removing it from people I’d say the modern royal post George III spending deal. Where all crown land is managed by the government and its income goes towards the general tax fund, In exchange for (currently 20%) being used to maintain palaces and funding crown/royal family events etc.

      Is under austerity governments. More harmful, in preventing that income, funding jobs for lower income people.

      Corporate trickle-down economics argument to reduce taxation may be utter crap.

      But the history of royal spending and more modern (1940s+) government spending def has a trickle down effect ignored by modern capitalism supporting governments.

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        People still lapring these bootlicker talking points?

        Cute…

        Should these parasites pay taxes?

        Asking for a friend

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          Your aversion to data seem stupid. How the hell you expect to even have a point if all data is seen as “lapring these bootlicker talking points?” rather then something you need a valid answer to.

          Yes, they should pay tax. And do. Although only on their personal income rather than crown estates since the 90s.

          Crown estates technically pays 80% tax since 1690s

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            My aversion is to paraites getting preferential treatment from the state while half the country is living in poverty champ;)

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              Cool, don’t entirely disagree.

              But while the death of ER2 means the republican view is definatly on the rise.

              There is no indication that it is something the majority of the UK wants.

              So childish insults in answer to historical facts and economic data only harms the case. Republicans do no have the might to win this as a war. They did in 1690. And found their own religiose crap lost them support. So Cromwell built our current system.

              So if you want to tear that system down. Unlike the puritans of the 1690s. You need to take the population of the nation with you. And convice them your ideas are better.

              “lapring these bootlicker talking points?” is just like saying. I have no answers, here is an insult.

              Honestly, I am likely a good few decades older than you. And have expected the republican movement to gain ground after ERs death since the late 80s. As she was all that held it together.

              I am sort of disappointed at how long it is taking for a viable argument to be formed and pushed to the people.

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                I am not even talking any over haul of the system per se… just abolish clown laws enabling these parasites not paying taxes.

                Also, they are also collecting rents from UK treasury, that also has to stop. I am not British, from outside these laws makes america look a “decent” place with our own clown extraction regimes.

                Also, the tone because this is largely a futile fight, just doing some rabble rousing.

                It is amazing how population is willing accept this status quo but here we are.

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                  20 minutes ago

                  just abolish clown laws enabling these parasites not paying taxes.

                  Grins constitutional monarchy. Honestly, yes, you need to overhaul the system to do that.

                  This is why the queen volunteered to pay taxes on her income in the 1990s. (As I said they do pay taxes)

                  Remember, while our current royals are technically powerless. Our parliament is still only using their power. This is the literal meaning of parliament is sovereign.

                  Think of our Parliament as a regent. Because that is sort of how the power structure works.

                  This means it’s hard for parliament as is to create laws that affect the king. As such laws would lack constitutional support.

                  Same with our justice system. Anyone in the UK taken to court. It is technically them vs the king. As such, it is actually impossible for the king to be prosecuted.

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                    My understanding is that the estate pays no taxes and extracts money from the treasury.

                    Unwillingness of the parliament to fix it, is that just.

                    But I understand, the rich rule us and fuck all we can do.

                    I am more amazed at working class accepting as oh well to some being in favour of it lol