• yokonzo@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    That is… Incorrect, there is about a 30% death rate within one year of brain trauma but there is absolutely no data showing that someone is going to die within an hour of being knocked unconscious more often than not, especially if they are young

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      10 hours ago

      I’m not saying that you’re wrong. You sound like you might know what you’re talking about. I just like publications and medical evidence. I trust that you won’t take it the wrong way.

      That is… Incorrect, there is about a 30% death rate within one year of brain trauma […]

      Source?

      […] but there is absolutely no data showing that someone is going to die within an hour of being knocked unconscious more often than not, […]

      Do you have a metastudy or something for that?

      especially if they are young

      That last sentence, do you have a source for the difference in outcome depending on the patient’s age?

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        6 hours ago

        at least show the studies you’re referencing instead of just saying you have them and asking for others to show theirs

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          Are you talking to me? I mean you replied to my comment, but saying that I’m referencing studies doesn’t make any sense. Well at least not to me, because I don’t believe that I claimed to have any studies for anything.

          If you meant to reply to me, please go read my first paragraph, and the maybe try it a second time. I actively tried to avoid getting labeled as dismissing the claims.

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        Bricolo, A., Turazzi, S., & Feriotti, G. (1980). Prolonged posttraumatic unconsciousness: therapeutic assets and liabilities… Journal of neurosurgery, 52 5, 625-34 . https://doi.org/10.3171/JNS.1980.52.5.0625.

        And it’s not on me to find the burden of truth for you. That’s a logical fallacy and a bad arguing tactic

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            3 hours ago

            I’d say it’s more a burden for the person making the claim that goes against reality. Imminent death is not in the least a common progression of getting knocked out.

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          Maybe, but they could’ve also posted the same request for citations on the first poster but did not.

          I think that really does reflect how someone can just say whatever and when challenged we are biased to only assume the second opinion as doubtful.

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            11 minutes ago

            OP’s claims of “oh mer gerhd you dead soon” were so broad and so wild that they didn’t seemed rooted in research. Asking for citations would be like asking your antivax aunt for her DIY “research”. But at least the claims should motivate people to seek healthcare, if they get knocked unconscious. Something that will save lives. So I left it at that.

            I asked for citations where I did, because it seemed like that commenter worked in the medical field, and actually could have the studies handy.

            If you read my request as casting doubt, then I invite you to read the first paragraph again. I specifically pointed out I just like scientific research, data, and evidence. I actually tried to avoid being seen as arguing against the claims.

            I can’t help that you (and a lot of other people, apparently) see asking for citations, as casting doubt. Expressing doubt wasn’t my intention, I was genuinely curious about the sources.

            And if being curious about science is wrong, then I’m going crawl up under a warm blanket, with a cup of chai and a nice peer reviewed metastudy, while staying wrong.