Most of the time when people say they have an unpopular opinion, it turns out it’s actually pretty popular.

Do you have some that’s really unpopular and most likely will get you downvoted?

  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Well, killing all Nazis isn’t genocide, it’s just mass murder.

    And it isn’t about a scale of how bad various regimes have been before or since.

    And yes, that’s the entire thing. They should have killed every last SS, Gestapo, every brown shirt and soldier, no matter how young. The motivation of the victims of killing every nazi wouldn’t matter because the point is to eradicate every last one of them, and there’s no way to prove they didn’t believe in what they were doing other than their actions. There weren’t very many Schindlers that showed by their actions that they actively resisted from the inside. And if it took their deaths to achieve the goal, then it was a mistake to not do it then.

    TBH, despite being against the death penalty for several reasons, I’m worried we might be faced with such a decision again in my lifetime because they didn’t do it then.

    Obviously, eradicating the nazis wouldn’t prevent the kind of insanity and hatred that exists as part of the human mind. It would have changed the face of that hatred though, and it would have sent the message that some things will not be forgiven or forgotten. It would have meant less rallying points, less bullshit. And it would have set the precedent that if humans behave like that, they can be put down like a rabid animal to protect the rest of us.

    Again, I’m aware of exactly how ugly this opinion is. I do not like looking at the world and thinking that there wasn’t enough death done back then. I do not like looking at the world now and wondering when it is going to happen again. But it’s an ugly fucking world, and they’re coming back. They’re coming back exactly the same way they did before because they were allowed to survive.

    • CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      I think you are kinda insane, at the wars end most German soldiers where literally underage, there is no justice in killing them, not the smallest bit.

    • Mrs_deWinter@feddit.de
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      1 year ago

      At the end of the war literal children were being drafted. Are you seriously arguing that we should kill a 13 year old because he got a threatening letter and followed it’s instructions?

      • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
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        1 year ago

        Ahh, I’m not arguing we, as in humanity today, should do anything yet.

        I’m saying that the people alive and in charge at the time made a mistake in not wiping out every nazi they could find.

        Age is no barrier to such things at all. A 13 year old can be tried as an adult in many places for extreme crimes. Child soldiers have been sent to war for millennia, and still are today. Children are quite capable of committing atrocities. I wouldn’t want to do it, I wouldn’t want to see it get that far. But it was a mistake not to go as far as necessary to eradicate anyone that served the nazis because there’s absolutely no way other than actions to prove what the individuals believed, and even that has flaws.

        How many children had already been killed? I’m not even talking about by the nazis. Look up the Dresden fire bombing. Plenty of children were burnt to ash there. Hiroshima, Nagasaki. The are just the famous ones. The allies had already killed children of all ages by the end of the war. Pretending that there’s a moral difference between that and executing them is not useful. Executions would even be arguably less horrible since it would only target those that were in the armed forces.