As their customer, I’m extremely happy to hear that.
Andy is my hero. He wanted to create an ecosystem to rival Microsoft and Google, without their bullshit.
Since conception, his mission statement was to work for the people who supported Proton’s dream, and now he’s ensuring that dream doesn’t get fucked with by people with bad incentives.
LEGEND
wow this is very good news. I always feared that at some point some billionaire ass will buy Proton. That will be impossible now.
“that will be impossible now”
Life uh… Finds a way.
Example:
openclosedAI
Proton’s mission has always been unique. Most companies are created to be sold, and they achieve that by placing profit above all other considerations. For most businesses providing “services” to the masses, the easiest way to profit has been to misuse user data and engage in surveillance capitalism to the detriment of society and democracy. At Proton, we have intentionally taken a different path to achieve a more difficult mission. We want to remake the internet in a way that is private by default and serves the interests of all of society, not just the interests of a few Silicon Valley tech giants. In short, we want to create an internet that is able and willing to defend freedom, no matter the cost.
They pulled the opposite of the enshitification, haha.
Positification ftw
The word is “engoodening”.
If they enable IMAP for all accounts that’d be awesome. I’ve been reluctant to use their mail system in case it just becomes another lock-in.
Yes, not being enable to integrate with the system both Linux and Android is what is bothering me the most.
But isn’t this exactly what the Protonmail bridge is for? I don’t use Proton myself (self-hosted Mailcow) but afaik Imap doesn’t support public keys/PGP the way Proton is using it, hence one needs the bridge to use normal Imap clients like Thunderbird.
Sure, but this is only for mail, not even calendar. Also, they do not push on flatpak which limits availability.
Contacts cannot be synced on Android. Drive is nonexistent on Linux and I do not think it is a work in progress project yet. Drive cannot sync folders on Android either.
These are basic features…
With all the problems they have, that is respectable.
What problems do they have?
Features. Their Mail doesn’t work for me because I want SMTP and IMAP. Their cloud storage does not do Linux and can’t be automated, their applications just seem rushed
@PlexSheep @MrPoopbutt SMTP and IMAP are impossible since they can’t decrypt your data. They do have https://proton.me/mail/bridge to enable you to use those protocols, however.
*encrypt
That is wrong. STARTLS exists, besides imaps and smtps are a thing. I don’t see any reason to do the weird bridge thing.
Bridge exists and works on a desktop but IMO it just does not make sense to add a proxy server running in my own device. Besides, I cannot use it (properly) on headless devices, especially with virtualization. Using a proper mobile client is completely not an option for mobile devices.
Community versions of bridge exist, but none are officially supported. I could change the source of the original bridge to host it on my server (not just on the loopback interface, which is literally hardcoded).
Besides, there is no calendar or contacts sync. Birthdays don’t get added to the calendar. Many more things. Their ideals are admirable, their email hosting just works for what features they offer (even custom domain), but it does not adhere to standard email stuff and features you find literally everywhere. For some users that may be okay but I decided its not okay for me.
What Mozilla should’ve been.
An organisation with products people want to pay for. Instead they ended up as a shill for Google with a CEO more concerned about her paycheck than actually making good products 😞
You mean 3-4 million for a non profit CEO are too much?
Think about her constant worrying about users not donating enough for her goal of constant raises without offering any actual value…
If we all donate 20% of our monthly salary to Mozilla by the next year she could reach 5m.
This is amazing news. I’ve been thinking about switching to Proton for a while now. Think this may just be the drop that makes me do it.
Swapped to their mail from Google finally about a year ago, it was a pain in the ass, but have been slowly removing myself from the google ecosystem.
Exactly the same here. It’s not perfect… it’s slow, it doesn’t work with your mobile mail client… but it’s better than the supervillain levels of evil that Google is pushing out.
Mobile mail client? Why not use the Proton Mail app?
because you can’t add non-proton email accounts
I don’t know if this would be a good idea.
Sometimes it’s good to run things for a profit, that way there’s extra in case something needs to be upgraded
