Islamist US proxies have captured Damascus. Bashar’s government has fallen. Is it joever for the Axis of Resistence?

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    1 month ago

    I have pinned the post to prevent a wave of similar posts.

    It is a sad day for the resistance in the Middle East. A US proxy has won yet again and their terrorist groups will destroy another country.

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    I never expected the Syrian army to fall this quickly, but it didn’t look good in the first place.

    Back when they were fighting back, the bull of the fighting force that didn’t come from Iran were formerly pretty active paramilitary groups that were incorporated into the Syrian army. After these fighter served full term in the army and got discharged, they joined up with other paramilitary or mercenaries groups, such as Hezbollah or Wagner group.

    Now that practically every experience fighters on Assad’s side are busy elsewhere, the entire forces on Assad’s side are pretty much underequipped conscripted troops that have neither the skill, experiences, equipments, nor the morale close to what the previous generation of fighters processes. Now add the fact the rebel groups are unsubtly support by the Yank et.al., and…well, you can do the rest of the math yourself.

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    1 month ago

    Feels like 1991 all over again. World historical tragedy occurring before our eyes. Please pay your respects to the martyrs who held out this long against Daesh, god have mercy on Syria

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      I don’t know about all of you but to me, seeing the decades-ruling Syrian government fall is like an “End of History” for the Middle East. This is a goodbye to the last remnant of Pan-Arabism, of Arab Socialism, of Arab Secularism, of Arab Anti-imperialism. It was the last remaining Arab anti-imperialist state in the Levant. This is a huge blow to the Axis of Resistance and Iran, billions of dollars and decades of foreign policy put to waste.

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    Can’t wait for the liberals and western leftists to ignore the caste system that’s gonna be implemented with a very specific type of Sunni Muslim on top. May be they can send sell construction slaves to the zios and gulf states. Gonna need a ton of bodies to build neom

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    Is this it? After all that’s been done, after all those years of killing terrorists? After they were at the brink of defeat, just because Russia decided to play buddy buddy with fucking Turkey with some agreements and thus stopping the fighting when they could have been defeated for good years ago? Bashar is alive and well unlike Gaddafi so he can return eventually.

    This will be worse than the peak days of ISIS, various terrorist groups will be literally killing each other and oppressing millions of people, Middle East is in the worst situation imaginable, next thing that will probably happen is that war will break out and Iran will annihilate zionist entity, but until then, it’s hell for Middle East.

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      There’s so much disappointment… the SAA’s unwillingness to fight, Syria’s allies standing on the sidelines, no one even trying to stop the terrorists. Syria will be like Afghanistan but worse at this rate.

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          If terrorists keep on appearing without a centralized command nor a reliable resource, then the problem is democratic support to the “terrorists”, the social conditions, economy, government corruption, or government mismanagement.

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          They did put up a fight. They’ve been depleted over a 10+ year long civil war. War fatigue set in long ago, and supplies and fresh recruits started drying up a long long time ago.

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      1 month ago

      Although the terrorists had a lot of help, the way the Syrian army crumbled is very suspicious. Or maybe they just were unprepared.

  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
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    This was an interesting take on the whole thing, and I think it’s quite plausible. He basically argues that the west might be intentionally drawn into a trap in Syria. Incidentally, there is a RAND paper that warns against this exact scenario. It basically argues that putting Syria under stress is beneficial to the US, but there is a risk of over commitment.

    Russia and Iran aren’t stupid, and they likely saw that the west was going to flare up the conflict in Syria again. One option was to pour resources into Syria to fight off the jihadists. This would be long and protracted quagmire. The other options was simply to withdraw and let them take it. These groups all hate each other, and they’re not a cohesive fighting force. They’re already starting to fight each other just days after taking over, and it’s only going to get worse.

    The west wants to have a compliant regime in Syria and that requires using coercive methods that will inevitably breed resentment from these groups. This is basically what happened in both Iraq and Afghanistan where the insurgents ultimately turned on their masters.

    On top of all that, Israel is now invading Syria in a big way, and they’re unlikely to withdraw. It’s only a matter of time till they start getting attacked, and this will force the west to keep pouring resources to prop them up. In effect, this flips the script on Syria. Instead of Russia and Iran being on the hook propping it up while the west can keep destabilizing it relatively cheaply. It is now the west that’s stuck with a very volatile situation.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVMfckVQ7Hg

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      1 month ago

      This would be in line with the general strategic analysis of how to defeat empires. I hope it’s the case

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      I think this is a reasonable take. And while I’m not going to pretend like this situation doesn’t present a problem for the Iran-Hezbollah supply line, I think that a fractured Syria probably means those supply lines can still be maintained. The Zionist entity will probably try and control as much of the Syria/Lebanon border as possible, but I think that will only serve to align more domestic Syrian forces against them.

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        29 days ago

        It is, but Russia is already at war and Iran is likely to be attacked next. Committing to a war in Syria could have disastrous consequences for both.

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    A bleak day. This is two major Hamas allies taken out of the fight in less than a month. It’s likely that Hamas will be looking for a ceasefire soon, especially if more blows like this happen.

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      1 month ago

      Hamas has been looking for a ceasefire for a while, just the permanent and enforceable kind which Isn’treal does not want.

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      It’s not coming back, and it’s worse

      Arab socialist states are being wiped out (Iraq, Libya, Syria), this past 20 years

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        30 days ago

        Can you really call Iraq socialist?

        I can definitely agree that Gaddafi’s Libya was socialist, but I have a hard time seeing how Iraq and Syria have been socialist in the past few decades.