There was a post on !mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world called “Lemmy is losing the war against reddit. How do we change things?” Looks like it was removed but there were a couple good discussions there. In a discussion with (I think it was) @hendrik@palaver.p3x.de we came up with this.

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    3 days ago

    Politically speaking, there is a clear-cut answer for what a good person is, I think. Someone who wants to improve the life of as many people as possible - even at the risk of decreasing their own circumstances. And that is usually what the left should aspire to be.

    Socially speaking, this usually means to grant the same rights to everyone. Giving up privileges, overcoming the bias one might have against certain groups and stopping to exploit them.

    Fiscally, this usually means supporting the poor. Conservative fiscal policies are mostly based on greed - ‘conserving’ the wealth of those who already have it at the cost of the poor. Going to your example, Germany, conservatives are all about taking money from the poor (Bürgergeld, Bafög, etc.) while denying any policies against the rich (just listen to the conservatives speeches during the vote of confidence: ‘These so called super-rich people don’t exist! We can’t take from those! They are all family-owned businesses! Their wealth creates jobs!’ [loosely translated summary of both Merz and Lindner] Which is just emotionally charged trickle down nonsense that has been disproven multiple times over.). The myth of ‘fiscal responsibility’ is also easily disproved if you look at Merz’ policies he is campaigning on - they have been proven as nonsense within days if not hours.

    It’s easy to see which is morally the better choice, both if you’re poor and if you’re rich. Robin Hood isn’t recognized as a heroic figure for nothing.

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      I think Germany already has quite a good social-safety net. I just also think that if you work hard the taxes shouldn’t be unbearably high and that a business friendly culture and good economy allows for a better social-safety net long term than if you cripple your own economy with too much regulation and taxes.

      I said I’m socially progressive which is why I think its important to have a social-safety net where everyone has a decent standard of living and can recover to employment. I think when it comes to regulation we need to focus more on using economic mechanisms to steer companies the right way than just forbid or invent a new bureaucratic point. In international comparison the income tax is really high which mainly harm people from the middle class and a bit from the upper class although they can afford proper consultation and minimize taxes. Thats why I think instead of raising taxes international loopholes should be closed, there needs to be a harder stance on tax evasion and financial crimes.

      I read up on some cases calculated by the IFO, Handelsblatt and from the “Sachverständigenrat für Wirtschaft und Transferleistungen” respectively. In there I found scenarios in which you could go from earning 2500€ to 4500€ before taxes and in the end end up with like 400€ more which I personally think is unacceptable. Social benefits should not be discouraging work in such a way. Those aspects personally place me in the party Volt which I also like for their european stance