Figured it might be a good discussion question. Crossposted to !pkms@lemmy.blahaj.zone.
Especially as someone who wants to help grow !journaling@sh.itjust.works, and to participate to help it grow, but in the end I come from !pkms@lemmy.blahaj.zone and I think of what I have far more as a Personal Knowledge Management System than a journal. I spend far less time on personal feelings and thoughts and “what did I do today?” and a lot more on making it a knowledge repository for Future Me. And if what I do is actually pretty separate from journaling it would be cool to know so I don’t invade threads I shouldn’t be talking in.
It’s as different as apples and oranges in my opinion.
However, journaling can be part of a PKMS, if you link it in a meaningful way.
There can also be different kinds of journaling as you mention. I write a personal journal (mostly everyday, going on two decades). However I also have a separate “domain knowledge” type journaling thats less feelings and such but discoveries and insights.
If you haven’t heard of the concept of Zettlekasten, I’d suggest looking into that. As a neurodivergent it was a breakthrough that matches how my mind works when it comes to curating a PKMS in a relational manner.
Curious how specifically they are different, other than them just being different.
At least from the sidebar,
In my opinion most of this overlaps with PKMS. What things belong in a PKMS that don’t go in a journal and vice versa?
Already looked into Zettelkasten awhile ago. Seems cool but I am getting by just fine, connecting different topics together without one. I am sure I’ve missed some potential connections, but I’m not an academic and feel I have a good enough understanding of the things in my PKMS that it’s not so essential I maximize connections with a Zettelkasten—especially because there’d be a cost to redoing my PKMS that way, and I think my own neurodivergent brain just Doesn’t Work That Way. Thanks for the suggestion though, hope an onlooker benefits
The question was not for me, but maybe I can share my pov:
There is no hard-coded rule and everythign go go in either one. But I think you already noticed the difference yourself: it’s all about the purpose. Which to me is very different in one and in the other. My journal is about free writing while the Zettel is about connecting (and maybe managing) stuff.
In my journal, I do not try to connect anything, or to manage it in anyway beside the dates. I write freely, a few words or a dozen pages if need be and I sketch. In my Zettel, each notion or idea has its own card and since it’s analog (real paper cards) each note is also space-limited (I can’t write dozen of pages on a single A6 card), which helps me a lot to either summarize more any idea that is not short enough, or will force me to split it into as many logical/meaningful independent units (and in as many cards) as needed so I can then later play with them more freely.
That Zettel is not something I will ever read linearly from first to last card, unlike my journal. It’s only there to help me re-read those cards while I mix (a selection of) them in different/unexpected ways, and therefore create new ideas, aka new connections.
I consider my journal fully linear while my Zettel is non-linear, but they both contain the same kind of things: stuff I’m interested in enough to be willing to write about. I will just not write the same way and not with the same objective.
It’s just there if you need it. What’s great though is that you try it (and use it too) very simply without much effort.
You don’t need to ‘redo’ all your existing content to begin with. You simply need to start using your Zettel with new ideas/projects and it will slowly, organically grow. Say, the next book you start reading, you decide to take your reading notes in the Zettel, and then your own ideas, you put them in the Zettel too, and so on. It will work with you, at your own pace and it will respect your own limits. But, clearly, you don’t need to use it at all, it’s just there if you want to give it a go ;)
It can also very easily evolve with you and your workflow and adapt to any change in the way you work. My numbering system has changed a lot since I started using it (as my cards changed too, I went from A7 to A6)… That said, I never had to renumber or rewrite a single card, I don’t need to. I simply reference old cards by their old numbering scheme and new ones by their new system, they co-exist in peace and harmony. At least with my analog Zettel, that’s how it works (without ever forcing me to do anything I don’t want or I would consider wasted time)
All of that to say: don’t think you will need to redo all the work. You can if you feel like it but you also can just move on. That being said, it’s clear the Zettel is just tool among many ;)
Edit: sorry, answered with my mod account, instead of my ‘user’ account :/
Nah, I appreciate your answer to the question. Don’t worry. I enjoy reading about other peoples’ workflows.
I was curious why you had one red-icon account and one blue-icon account, now I know!