I am searching for a selfhosted and secure (end to end encryption) chat platform for my family (5-20 users), possibly one i can host on a raspi.

Is matrix a good choice, or should i try something else?

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      5 months ago

      So all of these encrypt the conversations so not even the server admin can access them?

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        5 months ago

        XMPP only does it with certain client extensions. And Matrix only does it when the rooms are set up this way. SimpleX does what you want, but is kind of unintuitive for the average user.
        I say go with Signal, it does what you want and is idiot-proof.

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          5 months ago

          To be fair, pretty much all major XMPP clients have adopted OMEMO encryption, so doesn’t seem like much of an issue.

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          5 months ago

          It is literally one setting in Matrix to force all rooms to only do encrypted messages.

          Signal is pretty unintuitive when it comes to multiple devices per user, device transfers after a device has been lost,etc.

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            5 months ago

            Signal is perfectly good under normal usage. Everything is unintuitive when it comes to extremes like losing your device.

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              5 months ago

              Signal is annoying to use if you don’t have a smartphone you can trust, since they do not allow registration from desktop. So either an Android VM or Signal-cli. But maybe it was just a one-off bug that the desktop client didn’t bind to signal-cli for me. Still, the fact that you need an unofficial command-line application just to register makes it not exactly user-friendly.

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                5 months ago

                I imagine that most people’s families will find Singal easier than using a CLI program anyway. It’s rare to find an entire family without typical cellphones.

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                  5 months ago

                  Yea, but a typical cellphone is not as easy to make private as a typical laptop or desktop. Lineage has some tradeoffs and not accessible on all devices, and Graphene needs even more specific, quite expensive hardware!