Think of the money we’d all have if we were the ones selling our data
Big tech companies making vast profits off of users providing data for free instead of paying workers wages in exchange for manufacturing goods is only going to deepen the disparity of wealth in society.
What we desperately need is essentially a Digital Bill of Rights so that we can legally own our own data.
The solution for capitalism is more capitalism? Have you never played monopoly?
Private ownership ≠ capitalism. Monopoly is a critique of free market capitalism, which naturally leads to a concentration of wealth for those who hold all the assets. Giving people ownership of their own data would help redistribute that wealth in a more equitable way.
No, it won’t fix the underlying problem of Capitalism, but it would at least be a step in the right direction.
Private ownership ≠ capitalism.
Right. It’s private ownership of capital; aka the means of production. You’re saying that data should be owned because it can be used productively. That’s exactly capitalism for capitalism’s sake.
This is a typical economically right-wing approach. There is a problem, so you just create a new kind of property and call it done. The magic of the market takes care of it, or something. I don’t understand why one would expect a different result from trying the same thing.
The point of it is to redistribute wealth using the existing capitalist framework, which is a left-wing endeavour.
You already own everything by default unless you forfeit your rights by implicitly accepting terms and conditions of a specific service.
So basically don’t interact with 99% of online platforms, then?
Yes. Seriously stop giving them free content.
I don’t understand what the issue here is? Are people upset that companies that own the AI will churn profit from the free data available on the Internet for them to be trained on?
If so, this is a hypocritical double standard. We use the Internet for the free information ourselves. We train ourselves but if a company does it for AI all of the sudden all that free information suddenly needs to be paid for because it’s an incorporated institution?
Y’all need to figure out how free you want this content to be because there’s no in-between.
exactly. if a human painter looks at a bunch of posted images to practice with, it’s okay. If a computer does it, it’s evil.
Both the human artist and the computer eventually create something someone wants to pay for, and neither paid for looking at other people’s art.
it’s a double standard.
IMO it’s one thing if you posted things publicly on the internet and it’s getting scraped, in the same way a human would find it.
But it’s disgusting when all these companies retroactively update their TOS, or force you into zero privacy to continue using their service.
This is the entire issue for me.
Privatizing what is otherwise public content, and then privatizing the models that are trained on that content and making me pay for having it regurgitated back at me.
I think AI would be really cool, IF:
- it wasn’t being shoved into every goddamn thing
- it wasn’t being used as justification to cut jobs
- it was a open source project and wasn’t being gatekept by capitalist interests
Yeah, I’m genuinely feeling like I don’t want to publish things I create onto the internet, because these companies will gladly break laws to use it. Companies spent decades building up ridiculous copyright laws and when they go to violate those laws themselves, law enforcement fails.
Just create demented shitposts that will poison any AI, like the ones trained on Reddit posts telling users to put glue on their pizza and make chlorine gas.
