Picture shows a pride parade. A group of people are carrying a banner that says “LOCKHEED MARTIN” over a rainbow graphic.
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My first pride experience involved wearing a Kuffiyeh and shouting at my local military contractor’s HR department and the one visibly LGBTQ person as they strolled down the street appalled that people didn’t want them there.
No pride in genocide,
What, no Aperture Laboratories?! Shame! Shame!
Bottom right, third from the bottom.
Getting wealthy on war profiteering while wrapping yourself in the pride flag. Great, just great…
Is there at least any way we can leverage this so that bigots become literally scared of mistreating queer people? Like, if you deliberately misgender someone or use a homophobic slur everyone goes quiet and scatters in different directions because they are anticipating the drone strike.
“My pronouns might be they/them, but yours are about to be were/was.”
This message brought to you by Lockheed Martin: proudly supporting LGBTQ+ drone pilots worldwide.
I’d say that it’s better to frame it as; lockheed supports lgbtq+ but lgbtq+ does not support lockheed as long as lockheeds business-model is based on killing people.
Okay I’m all for equal treatment, but you sound fucking crazy right now. Do you know what you’re actually suggesting? Instilling fear of death in people committing a minor intolerance. That’s not a free society and it sounds like the start of a different monster of an oppressive system.
It’s obviously a joke.
Oh, people associate queer people with drone strikes, alright. Not as much in the US but there are people around the world (global south, etc) who will take stuff like this at face value and hate queer people because they associate us with the US military. It generally doesn’t work out well for the queer people living there.
Not as much in the US but there are people around the world (global south, etc) who will take stuff like this at face value and hate queer people because they associate us with the US military.
Jesus fucking Christ, imagine believing this.
Imagine being THIS into apologia for homophobia.
And then pretending like you never said this, lol.
Yikes. I’d rather get arrested than hold that banner
Liberalism in a nutshell:
IDK, I’d rather the people making the weapons be on our side.
As a Queer person what the hell do you mean? The gears of the military industrial complex are lubricated with the blood of the innocent.
Do you believe that if the US didn’t make weapons, then everyone else would also just stop making weapons?
Even back in 2009 Pacifists understand what endless conflict would lead to, exactly what we’re seeing today.
You know what disarming leads to?
Invasion by a hostile force.
Just ask Ukraine. They’re a very peaceful people, very into disbanding the military, defunding the military industrial complex, even getting rid of fighter jets and their nuclear weapons.
Ah yes because the US is going to be invaded by… Canada? Mexico? Uzbekistan? Seriously what the hell are you talking about? If you actually think that upholding the American empire has benefitted Americans then you’re just a liberal.
The US isn’t about to be invaded by anyone. We have a very powerful military. So there is no threat in the world we live in, aside from the threat from internal extremists and asymmetrical warfare (ie terrorism). If the world were quite different, and we had no military power, we’d be at risk from a number of adversaries. Possibility the greatest threat would be foreign-backed “separatism” as occurred in Ukraine in 2014 (which is simply a covert invasion that is disguised as a civil war).
There’s literally nothing wrong with being a liberal. It’s really quite preferable to a number of the alternatives. It must kill you that the majority of people don’t remotely support your political views.
Our side you mean the side of imperialism and neocolonialism, of the invasion of Iraq, of the bombing of Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos and Korea, and the interventionism in Chile, Libya, Iran (Mosaddegh era), and the support of the banana republics? Fuck that, that’s not my side.
Agreed, as a Queer person I do not stand with the military industrial complex, nor the politicians that are payed off by them, nor the military that uses their weapons against the innocent.
Is it better to be a queer person in a nation with a strong military that respects and integrates queer people, or a queer person in a nation with a weak military that imprisons and sometimes lynches queer people?
What’s this nonsense? How does reducing military expenditure lead to imprisonment and lynching of queer people? Is the only thing keeping the Military Industrial Complex from murdering queer people giving the former enough money?
What’s this nonsense?
It’s called a question. There are two scenarios alternate. There is no supposition of cause and effect.
Sure, then I refuse to answer your question
they might … you know … be gay and work at lockheed martin … and got their managers to pay for some shit for pride. maybe could submit expense reports and have the trip paid for …
there were times when gay people couldn’t work at lockheed martin. i prefer this photo to that.
The fact that anyone, let alone LGBTQ+ people, can go to the streets holding a “Lockheed Martin” sign and not get shamed into dropping it, shows we’re failing as a society
Lockheed martin makes HIMARS. HIMARS is saving ukraine lives. That’s a good thing.
Call me crazy, but if you save a granny from getting run over by a car, and the next thing you do is pull out a gun and shoot a pregnant woman in the face, I don’t think people are just gonna forget the latter act of violence because of your former act of compassion.
Also, they aren’t doing it an act of compassion either. They’re being paid stupid amounts of money. I’m not going to thank someone for walking a granny across the street if they were paid a few million dollars to do so.
They also make a motherload of AGMs including hellfires & mavericks which the IDF used exclusively to nuke Gaza and its residents into oblivion.
How about we don’t use the word nuke, in the context of military actions, unless actual nuclear weapons were involved? Because Israel is the one country on Earth that has them but hasn’t declared as such. And they have repeatedly threatened to use them on Gaza as some sort of act of god.
Weapons can be used for liberation or oppression at the same time. Lockheed doesn’t get to say who they sell to.
OK, so your earlier comment was saying they’re good for sending (selling) weapons to Ukraine. Then you say they can’t be held responsible for the bad things. If they can’t be responsible for the bad, then they also don’t get credit for any good.
Weapons can be used for liberation or oppression at the same time. Lockheed doesn’t get to say who they sell to.
Yes, you’ve identified the problem.
So corporations backed by tax dollars get to sell to anyone?
Swing and a miss. Try going in the opposite direction.
I can’t say if this specific one is authentic but I would not be surprised, as my company does the same: branded pride flags, t-shirts for their LGBTQ+ employees. And I’m torn on this, because I feel a bit bad about the branding aspect of it, but on the other hand the company putting their name to openly support all sexual and gender identities does seem like a good thing to do…
Yes, the irony of a company that produces more efficient ways of killing people being concerned with social issues does not escape me. But there are employees of the company who apparently support both (and good for them)
It’s also led by LGBT people and allies within the company. The goal is to make it a nicer place to work and recruit talent; whatever PR comes their way is just a perk.
If you’re not fucking ASHAMED of parading with a Lockheed Martin banner, you’re a disgusting human being. Change my mind
