• Vespair@lemm.ee
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    9 hours ago

    People keep saying this, but WHO?

    Who are you talking about?

    Who is this “somebody” you keep talking about showing up to save us?

    Look, nobody is coming to save us, and asking somebody else to risk harm on your behalf is selfish.

    If we object, it isn’t on somebody else to show up and save us, it’s on us.

    If you aren’t willing to make the moves yourself, who the fuck are you to ask somebody else to.

    Nobody is coming to save us, folks. It’s either us, me and you, or it’s nobody.

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      33 minutes ago

      This is specifically what NATO is designed for, to help when there are 3rd party threats to member nations. We have both made threats to other member nations (Canada, Greenland) and are currently experiencing a coup in our own country, which is a 3rd party threat if I’ve ever heard one.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO

      I am doing everything I can, but as a private citizen my options are extremely limited. What am I supposed to do in response to an international distress signal?

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      8 hours ago

      I don’t trust anyone enough for something to actually be done. Buy guns, buy 3d Printers, learn to make clothing, prepate your homesteads, prepare for isolation and be ready to lean on and support your neighbors.

      Be the best you can be, make good relationships with those around you, and brace yourselves . It’s the only thing I can realistically think I alone can do for me, my family, and my community.

      Is it a doomer view? I don’t think so. I like to have hope that my vote can fix something. I like to think my protests are heard and considered. But at the end of the day I have to focus on doing what I actually can.

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        1 hour ago

        Isolation really is an American mentality but it’s not particularly great for actually striking out. If you want to atop things from getting worse Collectivist activities and thinking is your best chance.

        Reach out to the people who are already doing stuff. If you have a union or a political action group, go to it and start organizing. If someone has already started organizing then join them and be subordinate. Find people who understand democratic systems and collective action and offer your time. In fighting is the luxury of peacetime so learn to do that which is not your own exact process. Set aside differences and petty disagreement and work to mutual benefit.

        Learn the Roberts rules of order or how your local and state governments function and utilize channels that exist. If you have a gardening or farmers market society reach out and looking at replacing your lawn for gardens and pool with like minded neighbours. Learn first aid and stock a kit. Train your body to be fit and learn self defense. Prepare yourself to be disobedient on someone else’s behalf.

        Your votes at a federal level are no longer being considered but will your protest be toothless? If you are feeling doom, reach out and find hope in solidarity.

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          58 minutes ago

          I agree!!! When I said isolation I meant more in the place where you are, build yourself up so when your neighbors need help they can lean on you for a bit while they set themselves up when things start to collapse.

          The answer is not a cabin in the woods, but to make yourself as ready as you can be so you can help others so they can get to a position where they can help you.

          EDIT: and support those in your community that ARE prepared so you can help one another.

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        8 hours ago

        I have a similar, albeit slightly less doomer, view currently. Focus on the safety and good of your community and loved ones, and remember that nothing is guaranteed to us. Do the necessary good steps like voting and protesting, but don’t be naïve enough to think that’s the whole of necessary action or a magic bullet to solve the problems. Do the good, but focus on the real workable action in your direct sphere of influence. Cheers.