• darkernations@lemmygrad.ml
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    4 hours ago

    I’m interested in why you think it’s wrong

    First, would you be kind enough to answer the following question (and this might involve some time and research in your own part) that will go a long way to prove that you are not a troll:

    Why is China signifcantly more democractic than the US?

    I am not asking if you truly believe this but whether you have the intellectual curiousity (and I want to clarify this is not an underhand way of commenting on your personal intelligence; I only discovered the answer to that question relatively recently - to my shame) to make the case to answer the above convincingly.

    You will have to explore quite a few significant things to be able meaningfully answer this and given that your initial comment suggests apologism for western imperialism it may not be in your perceived class interests to research the answer to that question.

    You are by no means obliged to answer and if so then I am not committed to expend energy where it may not be fruitful.

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      I’m not sure that the United States is more democratic, I do know that China is a one party state and because of that don’t believe it’s in Chinas best interest to be transparent. I think it’s in Chinas best interest to maintain the power of the party above all. I think this is fundamentally different from a true democracy, which I’m not convinced the United states is, to promote transparency in political issues because they have competition that they need to be able to keep an eye on when they lose power. Regardless, I’m not sure what domestic policy has to do with the geopolitics of the situation.

      You’re not obligated to answer anything, but if this kind of thing is supposed to be a priority for you but it’s not important enough for you to say what you mean then why would I think this is important enough for me to devote my time to?

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        You’re not obligated to answer anything, but if this kind of thing is supposed to be a priority for you but it’s not important enough for you to say what you mean then why would I think this is important enough for me to devote my time to?

        Hey I see that your account is only a day old, and I’m not the person you replied to, but to answer your question I’ll say this: People come into this space (lemmygrad) with bad faith intentions and as such often its easier to assess if someone wants to engage in good faith or not first.

        then why would I think this is important enough for me to devote my time to?

        Its important to understand how a country’s government functions just as much as its important to understand how your own government functions. So it’s important for you, so that we have the same understanding. Otherwise we might just talk past each other.

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          And to you too. I don’t know why you ask people to investigate things that you don’t find important enough to share your opinion on, it’s a strange way to communicate.

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            I wasn’t sure how sincere you were at first but after that response along with your other comments with thinly veiled bigotry it was felt a bit pointless explaining to a first world creationist why the universe was not made in 7 days.

            You live in a world where the west is arming, funding and giving political cover to an active genocide. You live in a world where you fail to consider what are the democratic feedback loops that enabled one of the most populous countries in the world lift 800 million people out of poverty in the shortest time frame in human history while being surrounded by vassal states armed and funded against it by the west. You live in a world where the west subjugates the global south for superexploitation of its peoples and resources through gunboat diplomacy, sanctions, coups, and racketeering through financial insitutions such as the IMF. And the countries who manage to attempt to maintain their sovereignity in this hell created and maintained by the west you then dare to wag your blooded finger from the ivory tower built on the bones the west massacred.

            Go read the ASPI report on China’s technological prowess. Go read the Tricontinental study on the eradication of poverty in China. Go read Vijay Prashad’s Washington Bullets. Go Read Kyle Ferrana’s book on China. Go read the Jakharta Method. Go read the articles on China at redsails.org. Go read the articles on prolewiki. Go watch Parenti on youtube. Go read Capital. Educate yourself.

            Most of us on this forum were versions of you; your fate is not set in stone.