You are right that China is not occupying Taiwan, they don’t have any substantial presence there. Countries generally do occupy the places that make up the country though, the question I think we’re considering is about a military occupation, whether the occupation is welcomed by the population freely or maintained through force by military action. It was split because of a civil war between different Chinese factions, not western imperialism. Neither was Korea split by West and East, it was split by American and Soviet forces.who agreed to the demarcation line and then upheld by the United nations. China wishes it could occupy Taiwan, but the Taiwanese people have rejected that idea many times so China is forced to abandon the idea or attempt a military occupation. I hope there’s no military occupation but rather further attempts to peacefully integrate. What are you hoping for?
McCarthy was a long time ago, I think we’re well beyond that today. Today the situation was no peaceful trade and a drawdown of military forces in the far east and dependence upon each other. Then China started building up their military, so some from the West decided not to back down and met that build up, this caused a trade rift and a continued build up and fracturing of those economies to remove the dependencies. I don’t think any of these are the product of anti China racism.
I think recent history is actually very peaceful. There have been minor wars, yes, but nothing like what history has shown the world capable of in the past.
We should also consider that all of the military build up around Taiwan isn’t just around Taiwan, it’s around other allies in the region so any buildup against Taiwan threatens multiple American allies in the region so there was never a real possiblity that they wouldn’t step up to the challenge presented by China
I think recent history is actually very peaceful. There have been minor wars, yes, but nothing like what history has shown the world capable of in the past.
ain’t no way, westoids always say the most hilarious things
It was split because of a civil war between different Chinese factions, not western imperialism.
Incorrect. The west absolutely stepped in and did what they could to keep Taiwan as a leverage point against China.
Neither was Korea split by West and East, it was split by American and Soviet forces.who agreed to the demarcation line and then upheld by the United nations.
Also incorrect. The split was literally drawn up by US occupying forces in Korea and further made reality through the brutally repressive puppet government run by Syngman Rhee.
China wishes it could occupy Taiwan, but the Taiwanese people have rejected that idea many times so China is forced to abandon the idea or attempt a military occupation.
Pure nonsense.
McCarthy was a long time ago, I think we’re well beyond that today.
They’re still vilifying Russia today, like it’s still the Soviet Union (it’s far from that at this point). They’re vilifying China similarly right now.
I think recent history is actually very peaceful.
The western empire, under the leadership of the US, has been doing brutal coups, violent sanctions, and hot wars either through proxies or directly, for decades.
I would like to know where you are getting your information that you have such wildly wrong takes about basically all of this.
It’s difficult to tell if we’re discussing geopolitical realities or there’s just an agenda being pushed.
Yes, the United States defends it’s interests. That’s the geopolitical reality. Yes, they saw an ally fighting against an enemy and stopped the destruction of an ally. That’s not crazy, thats the reality. Yes, the United States saw the Soviet union occupying Korea and didn’t expect such a fast occupation so they drew up a border with the soviet’s to mark occupation zones as they did in every nation that was defeated in ww2. Yes, both the north and the south out incompetent dictators in charge and both suffered for it.
Russia is attacking their neighbors, so maybe Russia deserves some infamy.
“Wildly wrong” lol, you just really want to push a narrative and choose your facts to accommodate a pre conceived narrative you want to present
It’s difficult to tell if we’re discussing geopolitical realities or there’s just an agenda being pushed.
You not recognizing that everything has bias is a problem here. There is no politically “neutral” position. There are, however, factual realities and wholesale lies, and things between depending on how they are presented, and you keep spewing utter nonsense.
What you are behaving like is a garden-variety “independent thinker” westerner who repeats western imperialist talking points, while believing you are being discerning. Yes, I want to push a narrative, one that aligns with the interests of the historically colonized and imperialized peoples of the world. I also want to push a narrative that is factually accurate and these are not incompatible agendas.
Part of the problem for someone like you, and I have been there in the past myself, is you think you are above that, and you think a person can be above that. You think you can examine reality from outside it and you can’t. You are far more of a product of propaganda than you think you are. Your intellectual arrogance and the heightened coupling between your ego sense of competence and your ability to believe you are above biases, is part of your undoing and will continue to be, unless you face it.
You are right that China is not occupying Taiwan, they don’t have any substantial presence there. Countries generally do occupy the places that make up the country though, the question I think we’re considering is about a military occupation, whether the occupation is welcomed by the population freely or maintained through force by military action. It was split because of a civil war between different Chinese factions, not western imperialism. Neither was Korea split by West and East, it was split by American and Soviet forces.who agreed to the demarcation line and then upheld by the United nations. China wishes it could occupy Taiwan, but the Taiwanese people have rejected that idea many times so China is forced to abandon the idea or attempt a military occupation. I hope there’s no military occupation but rather further attempts to peacefully integrate. What are you hoping for?
McCarthy was a long time ago, I think we’re well beyond that today. Today the situation was no peaceful trade and a drawdown of military forces in the far east and dependence upon each other. Then China started building up their military, so some from the West decided not to back down and met that build up, this caused a trade rift and a continued build up and fracturing of those economies to remove the dependencies. I don’t think any of these are the product of anti China racism.
I think recent history is actually very peaceful. There have been minor wars, yes, but nothing like what history has shown the world capable of in the past.
We should also consider that all of the military build up around Taiwan isn’t just around Taiwan, it’s around other allies in the region so any buildup against Taiwan threatens multiple American allies in the region so there was never a real possiblity that they wouldn’t step up to the challenge presented by China
ain’t no way, westoids always say the most hilarious things
Incorrect. The west absolutely stepped in and did what they could to keep Taiwan as a leverage point against China.
Also incorrect. The split was literally drawn up by US occupying forces in Korea and further made reality through the brutally repressive puppet government run by Syngman Rhee.
Pure nonsense.
They’re still vilifying Russia today, like it’s still the Soviet Union (it’s far from that at this point). They’re vilifying China similarly right now.
The western empire, under the leadership of the US, has been doing brutal coups, violent sanctions, and hot wars either through proxies or directly, for decades.
I would like to know where you are getting your information that you have such wildly wrong takes about basically all of this.
its a peaceful world when youre never on the receiving end of the bombs.
It’s difficult to tell if we’re discussing geopolitical realities or there’s just an agenda being pushed.
Yes, the United States defends it’s interests. That’s the geopolitical reality. Yes, they saw an ally fighting against an enemy and stopped the destruction of an ally. That’s not crazy, thats the reality. Yes, the United States saw the Soviet union occupying Korea and didn’t expect such a fast occupation so they drew up a border with the soviet’s to mark occupation zones as they did in every nation that was defeated in ww2. Yes, both the north and the south out incompetent dictators in charge and both suffered for it.
Russia is attacking their neighbors, so maybe Russia deserves some infamy.
“Wildly wrong” lol, you just really want to push a narrative and choose your facts to accommodate a pre conceived narrative you want to present
You not recognizing that everything has bias is a problem here. There is no politically “neutral” position. There are, however, factual realities and wholesale lies, and things between depending on how they are presented, and you keep spewing utter nonsense.
What you are behaving like is a garden-variety “independent thinker” westerner who repeats western imperialist talking points, while believing you are being discerning. Yes, I want to push a narrative, one that aligns with the interests of the historically colonized and imperialized peoples of the world. I also want to push a narrative that is factually accurate and these are not incompatible agendas.
Part of the problem for someone like you, and I have been there in the past myself, is you think you are above that, and you think a person can be above that. You think you can examine reality from outside it and you can’t. You are far more of a product of propaganda than you think you are. Your intellectual arrogance and the heightened coupling between your ego sense of competence and your ability to believe you are above biases, is part of your undoing and will continue to be, unless you face it.