Well according to this study: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-secular-life/201807/religion-secularism-and-xenophobia
23% of the population doesn’t need religion to be bigots, so eliminating all religion still leaves 1 in 4 people in America a bigot.
23% of non-religious/secular Americans said that they viewed the predicated changing racial and ethnic demographics as a bad thing.
Holy shit, 23% of secular Americans are bigots. That sure as fuck isn’t an outlier, it’s 1 in 4 people. Find 3 other secular people, one of you is a bigot. Why are you proposing a solution that ignores roughly 20 million bigots? (Population of 334,914,895, roughly 28% are secular, roughly 23% of those are bigots).
I’m starting to suspect bigotry is not your main focus of concern here.
you’re taking an outlier: a bigoted secularist; and equating it with the norm of religious bigotry.
I’m going to take a page for your book and ask for a source on that. What is the difference in bigotry between religious and secular people?
methinks you might have an ulterior motive.
Me thinks thou dost protest too much. You’ve taken a article about bigotry, that doesn’t mention religion a single time, and used it as your soapbox to declare all religion should be banned. I’m not the one with the ulterior motive here, and I’m just pointing that out.
If someone argued that the way to stop bigotry was to make sure everyone was vaccinated I’d argue against that too, because it’s irrelevant to what is happening and won’t fix it.
Sounds like bigotry exists in both, the origins must be something else.
Why waste time with words when no words do trick?
I got fed up with Windows and recently tried Linux Mint. In regards to ease of use it was like a breath of fresh air. Things just work inherently, and I didn’t have to fight with it to remove bullshit I didn’t want.
As for software compatibility I’ve mostly already had alternatives readily available. For other things the tools exist to make them compatible and don’t take long to learn.
There is no reason not to recommend it to people who are getting annoyed with the enshittification of Windows.
Then the root cause of the symptoms isn’t religion, is it? Seeing as it affects secular people as well.
Man you give up quick when the effective solution isn’t attacking religion. Makes me suspect that your actual motivation may not be ending bigotry, but rather furthering your own bigotry. (Shocking, I know)
Anti - vaxxers are based on fairy tales but claim to be based on reason and logic. Religion is not the problem, education is.
Are you claiming secular bigots don’t exist?
Again, I don’t need a fully documented 10 point plan to point out that your idea doesn’t work. Dealing with the religious bigots doesn’t deal with the secular bigots. Dealing with the secular bigots deals with both, so why waste time on religion?
The obstacle I’m seeing is the police not doing their job. They’ve already talked to one of the assailants, they know who they are, and have done nothing. Let’s start there.
Replying with just the word “anecdotal” is bad faith.
So is assuming this attack was motivated by religion instead of by a group of assholes.
Let’s start over: what happened here was terrible, shouldn’t be allowed, and it’s absurd that no one has been charged when police already interviewed one of the assailants and so should know who they are.
Instead of getting distracted by some secular vs religious debate that might not even be relevant, let’s focus on pressuring the police to do their damn job.
Laws, enforcement (what’s being asked for here), and education.
So you’re being anecdotal?
I don’t think whether people are religious or secular is a relevant metric for people, animals, or the planet. Shitty people exist in both groups and will be shitty regardless.
What makes you think this group of men were religious in the first place?
“cutting off people’s pinkies will reduce global warming”
“People with missing pinkies contribute just as much to global warming”
“Do they really though? Provide some evidence. And if true do you have a better solution to reduce global warming?”
People don’t need to have an alternative plan ready to go in order to point out that yours is ineffective.
Yup, 23% is 13% smaller than Protestants, so if you want to get rid of Protestants you’ll get rid of 13% instead of the full 39% if we deal with the actual fucking cause. 23% is 9% smaller than Catholics, so if you want to get rid of Catholicism you’ll get rid of the 9% that are bigots instead of the full 32%. Evangelicals are the only one more than double the baseline, so you could focus on Evangelicals and deal with the 29% of them that are bigots, or we could find a solution that accounts for Secular bigots as well and deal with all 52%. Why are you arguing for less effective methods? What even is your plan to get rid of all religion and leaving only 1 in 4 people as bigots?
You just don’t want to accept anything other than getting rid of religion, regardless of how ineffective the idea is. You’re arguing in bad faith, and getting upset that when pushed your bad faith becomes obvious and you look like a fool. You’re sticking on a stupid point for no reason other than your own hatred and bigotry. you’re fucking pathetic. Quit trying to push your bad faith arguments and you’ll stop showing yourself to be a fool.