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  • Yes. But the graphic is painting the idea that the text can’t have been transmitted accurately. Whereas it’s most likely we have good portions of what Paul actually taught, less so the historical Jesus but some parts more likely than others. The OT is different given it’s largely legendary. But, even so, it’s transmission from the post exile communities that first authored it is surprisingly accurate. The Dead Sea Scrolls found in the late 1940s pushed back the earliest OT texts we have a full thousand years from ~900ad to ~100bc. The level to which they were accurate copies was astonishing showing that textual transmission in the ancient world was more reliable than previously thought.

    This isn’t a religious point of view, but rather one of secular scholarship.





  • I think the KJV-only movement is largely an American insanity. Elsewhere I see the NIV or NASB being used more. And they’re translated from earliest Greek texts wherever they’re found. Earliest complete texts are about 325ad with fragments earlier

    The “10s of thousands of variations” line is disingenuous. Manuscripts overwhelmingly only differ on grammatical and typos type differences. A bit like if everyone was asked to tell the story of Goldilocks. You’d get 1000 variations, but the essentials of the story would be apparent clear as day.





  • The Torah, the Psalms endlessly praise God as being “good”, the word of the Lord being “perfect” etc

    Eg from biblehub.com concordance. References to God being called one of the words for “good”…

    of God, himself Nahum 1:7; 2Chronicles 30:18; Psalm 86:5; כי טוב for he is good, kind Psalm 34:9; Psalm 100:5; Psalm 135:3; Jeremiah 33:11; כי טוב כי לעולם חסדוֺ 1 Chronicles 16:34; 2Chronicles 5:13; 7:3; Ezra 3:11; Psalm 106:1; Psalm 107:1; Psalm 118:1; Psalm 118:29; Psalm 136:1; טוב לְ kind to Psalm 73:1; Psalm 145:9; Lamentations 3:25; יד (ה)טובה על Ezra 7:9; Ezra 8:18; Nehemiah 2:8,18; רוחךָ (ה)טובה Nehemiah 9:20; Psalm 143:10; שׁמךָ כי טוב Psalm 52:11; Psalm 54:8; כּי טוב חסדךָ Psalm 69:17; Psalm 109:21; הדבר(ים) הטוב(יםׅ the good, kind word(s) spoken in promise Joshua 21:43; Joshua 23:14,15 (D), 1 Kings 8:56; Jeremiah 29:10; Jeremiah 33:14; Zechariah 1:13.




  • While I agree with your sentiment, the problem with the Bible is that it doesn’t contain democracy. It only really has examples of god ordained despots. So one can “follow the Bible” and have results that are wack.

    Israel was supposed to still be loyal to King David even though he was a liar, murderer and adulterer. Jesus has the opportunity to tell people to reject Caesar but instead choose to more or less tell them to let Caesar be Caesar and keep whatever is God’s separate. It was tacit acknowledgment that sometimes you have to obey evil rulers. (St Paul carries this on in Romans)

    So obviously that was necessary in first century Judea. The problem is that’s the only scenario the new testament deals with.

    Add to that that all Jesus’ ethics are person based, without a single word of what a government should or shouldn’t do. Minus all the common sense tradition amalgamated in Europe over 1600 years, and you have the religious right of America.




  • Am seriously considering founding a not-for-profit to provide an ad free / spam free / bot free basic community. Would cost a dollar or two a month. Chief differences to the lemmy would be one account per person via proof of identity signup (I think this would improve behaviour and discourage spam), a single authority to tackle voting abuse and other things useful to be not federated.

    Aside from that revenue would cover technical staff costs + hosting and the rest could go to some good cause. There’s be no ads. No data selling. Not conflict of interest over how the platform evolves. Would be open source. Adults only.

    Id keep it as basic as possible to try and capture the spirit of 90s fora. Am not even sure I’d allow inline images or vid.

    Thoughts?