Don’t touch her, she’ll steal your football powers!

They would be android devices, then.

So no. They wouldn’t be good.

This is a fantastic list! Thank you for sending it my way. Saved for later exploration and I commented with my latest free (though only partially open source) app suggestion.

Fantastic list!

If you’re ok with including AI art generating apps on the list then check out Draw Things.

It’s free, runs the models only locally on your device, and collects no data/has an excellent clear privacy policy. It also does it in a fairly user-friendly way.

I have been extremely blown away by how capable it is. You can import Checkpoints, LoRa, Embeddings, and other Stable Diffusion-based things downloaded from huggingface, and civitai, likely other places. You can mix models and train LoRa. It has recently added API and http server functionality so you can automate image generation or plug it into other apps. It even can generate up to 25-frames of video, and it includes an exporter that does video frame interpolation.

It runs on iPhone, iPad, Mac, and the iPad version runs on VisionOS. I take a photo with my phone and make crazy variations of art with it without having internet access or paying a dime more than my expensive device already cost me.

With a separate app I can turn things I generate into stereo photos or video and see them in 3D on my headset.

I can also zoom in and enhance parts of photos, or upscale them in ways that hallucinate reasonable details.

I feel like I’m one hoverboard away from the future I was promised as a kid!

I’ve been so enamored with this app recently that it’s making me consider a career change, so I apologize if I’m coming off like an advertisement.

Are there viable alternatives for their products?

I have used and worked on/with/owned quite a few VR headsets, yeah. Not a comprehensive reviewer-worthy amount, but I’ve been working on, or playing with, a VR headset since 2015, and I do consider myself to be an enthusiast.

Currently I own a Valve Index and a PSVR 2 along with my Vision Pro. Those two haven’t gotten use in a long while, whereas I use my Vision Pro a lot every day.

I don’t have a lot of experience with Quest 2, 3, or Pro, because Meta’s whole account debacle caused me to give my original quest away to a homeless friend of mine, which he sold for child support money, I think. Not a fan or Meta as a company in general.

I am a slight fan of Apple as a company, and by lemmy standards, I qualify as a rabid lunatic fanboy of Apple, so take it with a grain of salt, but…

The Vision Pro is a lot more of a comprehensive product than any of the other devices I’ve used, in ways that probably don’t matter to most VR enthusiasts. The surprisingly gripping features of it have nothing to do with gaming whatsoever, and everything to do with art, content, media, and productivity.

The main hobby I’ve been using it for daily is learning how to create 3D videos using Stable Diffusion. The huge bonus for this is all of the iPad apps that mostly just work without issue out of the box sprinkled with some Vision Pro specific apps.

Without leaving the headset or relying on an external device, I can use Draw Things to generate a high resolution image, generate up to 25 frames of video with that image as a starting point, save the image sequence out to a directory, where I can use LumaFusion to combine sequences into a video. If I need to I can use waifu2x to uprez, but that takes forever, so I usually don’t.

I can export the video and drag and drop it into Spatial Media Toolkit, futz with the depth setting, and output an AI generated spatial video. I can use Spatialify to output a SBS video if I want to at that point, but usually just keep them as spatial videos.

Aside from that specific workflow, It’s also the best 2D and 3D video watching headset experience. Being able to dial my environment in to drown out a the rest of a cross-country flight and watch Mad Max: Fury Road in 3D while it reflects on a lake in front of me, the size of a cinema screen, is both magical, and something that I hope even Quest users get to experience in some capacity on their platform.

It comes in handy, too, when I want to watch or do something different than the bf is watching on the tv.

I also am benefiting from the Apple ecosystem, since I own an m1 macbook and an iPhone 15 pro.

I love being able to capture spatial videos and panoramas and then experience them in headset later. Airdropping files between devices also lets me offload longer video processing to them, since waifu2x and handbrake on the mac work better for uprezzing and Spatial Media Toolkit has a native-ish Mac release.

For generative AI Draw Things is also on the mac and iPhone, but I’m learning ComfyUI since it seems way more powerful. And I use Screens 5 to vnc from my headset or phone, or I use the native virtual display if I’m by the mac itself.

My only experience using a Quest 2 was recently when a friend came over and we spent an hour trying to get it to work, resetting and rebooting over and over, before finally just giving up on pairing one of the two controllers, and we used the ios app to launch the browser to watch some 180 stereo videos. It wasn’t a good experience, but I’m sure it would be once it’s setup.

But I can’t really knock it too much, since trying to share the Vision Pro is the worst part of the device. The best option is to SharePlay to a mac or Apple TV, since the whole guest mode thing takes too long. And while I won’t fly without my Vision Pro again, I wouldn’t feel comfortable bringing it to a friend’s place. That thing’s expensive as hell, and I don’t want someone to drop it or for it to get stolen.

I do, yeah.

I canceled my Disney+ sub due to the price increase during the great enshitification race to the bottom, but their support for VisionOS and immersive content is making me rethink that.

In a Fortune 500 company $4,000 would not raise an eyebrow on an expense report. Companies using MR for professional use-cases aren’t likely buying a Quest. They’re likely using a Varjo, which consumers can’t even purchase, and which ranges from as expensive as the Vision Pro to more 3 times as expensive as the one.

I think there’s a lot of Apple hate oriented opinions on the Vision Pro, and it’s unfortunate that it is so expensive that most people can’t get one who might have been on the fence. But the actual experience is pretty great, and especially so compared with what’s out there.

I hate linking to reddit threads on lemmy but it’s marginally better than linking X. Jon Chu seems to think that video editing in the VisionPro does offer a significant advantage to the workflow:

https://www.reddit.com/r/editors/comments/1akjeic/jon_chu_on_editing_with_apples_vision_pro/

And the fact that you can just use the Davinci Resolve (industry-standard post-production) for iPad app as-is in the headset is pretty fantastic for jumping in there today and being productive professionally.

You dismiss “editing videos” as if that’s not an incredibly useful to be able to do that. I have been taking 2D videos, upscaling them and generating spatial videos with various iPad and VisionOS native apps a lot lately and the results are fantastic!

But you state a lot of things as fact, so I should ask, have you used one at all?

Why?

They felt extremely small, too.

Because they are extremely tiny.

Tastes like ass, you say? I’m sold!

I’ve never thought about this exactly, but I bet there are a lot of planets with 30 month years when compared to Earth’s orbit of the sun.

Not everyone gets a cake on their 35th birthday.

It’s an ActivityPub protocol implementing fediverse platform. It has the equivalent of lemmy’s communities which it calls magazines, but it also has microblogging similar to mastadon mixed in.

As a result they sort of work together which is awesome, but also you get stuff like what OP is asking about.

Oh, Oooh. NOW I SEE IT!

Maybe you should highlight it with a red circle, because I still don’t see it.

I know someone who got the snip pretty young because he and his wife didn’t want kids. Years later friends of ours had kids and it changed their mind. He got it undone and they had a kid.

Seems like a minor thing to do and condoms are the worst.

I know I’m earning this downvoted spam, but…

This requires you to use enterprise-oriented features that blast you with warnings telling you not to do it. After you ignore those warnings they can install anything they want on your device.

This is basically sideloading for corporations.

And it is exactly an example of what will happen (and be quite common) if regular sideloading and alternative app stores with no Apple validation are forced on us.

It’s a problem on Android, already. Banking apps disable themselves if your device is rooted due to malicious Trojans that exploit that feature to gain easy access to your data.